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- From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
- Subject: Re: The Problem with UNIX
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.132256.9174@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
- Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
- References: <1992Nov9.172715.16367@cs.wisc.edu> <1992Nov11.194557.16258@yarc.uucp> <1992Nov14.153857.1666@global.hacktic.nl>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:22:56 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov14.153857.1666@global.hacktic.nl>, peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
- > mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
- >> files? Consider instead "echo a b > b".[%]
- > I did just that with bash and it didn't complain. But yet, echo is
- > often a built-in command.
-
- Did you read my footnote? It addresses exactly that.
-
- >> Is "acceptance in the general microcomputer market place" something
- >> we wish for UNIX?
- > Acceptance in the general microcomputer market also means more
- > software, lower prices, more support (every (S)VGA card ships with
- > Windows drivers, but X11 support is harder to get),
-
- Speaking purely personally....
-
- More software? The sort of software that popularity will bring will of
- necessity be mass-market software, which is (a) extortware, (b) dumbed
- down to suit the mass market, and (c) usually does something I'm not
- the least bit interested in anyway.
-
- Lower prices? For what? I will never pay for software, and there's no
- reason I can't use mass-market hardware (like, say, a 486 box).
-
- More support? There's no way in hell I'm even going to be working at a
- place that can afford to buy the level of support that just having the
- source gives, never mind actually paying it myself. (I once was on a
- consulting job at an organization that had, to support the job in
- question, bought support from the relevant vendor. About all we ever
- got out of them was "uh, that's a good question, let me get back to
- you". I can think of only one thing they ever told us that we hadn't
- already found out for ourselves by UTSLing (they had, sensibly, also
- obtained the source), and that thing was incidental rather than being
- what we asked.)
-
- > more UNIX related jobs (or do you prefer to use Windows at work? :),
- > more UNIX everything.
-
- Possibly a point, though there's still the danger that they'll not be
- the-UNIX-I-love jobs and everything but UNIX-dumbed-down-for-the-masses
- jobs and everything.
-
- der Mouse
-
- mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
-