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- From: ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk (Philippe Goujard)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
- Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
- Message-ID: <1405@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 13:22:29 GMT
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- papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod) writes:
-
- >>>Because that often saves (a lot of) money.
- >>
- >>I doubt it. If you insist to install the OS yourself then you better
- >>start learning how manage it.
-
- >No, no, no, no, no....OS/2, Windows, DOS etc. have PROVED that you don't
- >have to be a system administrator to install an OS. Why do you insist on
- >this dogma "if you aren't computer literate enough to install Unix, you
- >should pay someone to do it." Why not make unix easy enough to install
- >that you don't have to do either? Why force the problem onto the user
- >instead of just FIXING it? Why defend a flaw?
-
- As long as your are installing a unix with multi-user capacities you have
- to know at least a little bit more than when installing single user
- operating systems.
-
- Of course if you are speaking of a unix for a single user this is a
- completly different ball game. But so far I've never seen such a beasty.
- Maybe SVR4.2 will be.
-
- For the moment (as long as we don't have a single user unix (or unix-lite
- if you prefer to call it that way)) you should really compare unix with a
- network software.
- For example Novell is not really difficult to install but it is not exactly
- what joe user does every morning to have fun.
-
-
- >I won't defend Dos, or windows' or OS/2s' flaws. I will highlight their
- >strong points. Highlight unixes' strong points, but FIX IT'S FLAWS.
-
- >Overly complex installation is a flaw.
-
- Yes but what is complex? Something complex for you might not be for me or
- the other way around. I suppose what we really need to address if we want
- unix on the low-end workstation market to be competitive is to design a
- unix-lite that will be easy to install, easy to administrate and easy to
- use for people who don't have any specific knowledge.
- This may imply to remove some functionalities (such as multi-user) or hide
- some of them (such as network management) and probably bundle user-friendly
- and consistent software.
-
- Of course some of you might say that a single unix already exists and it is
- called os/2...
-
- PS : I installed windows 3.1 recently and I LIKED the installation
- procedure, specially those messages saying "This is a good time for filling
- you registration..." It makes you feel you're not loosing your time waiting
- for one floppy to finish and to feed it the next one.
- However, programs under windows tend to be really large now (how many
- floppies for Corel draw?) and I wish you could get a tape distribution.
- (Allright, you MAY get a cd-rom distribution for some of them but except
- for installing software a cd-rom seems pretty useless when a tape can also
- be used for backups (yet another problem under dos machines)).
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- Philippe GOUJARD Email : ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk
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