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- From: mccolm@darwin.math.usf.edu. (Gregory McColm)
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- Subject: Re: Human Computers....
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- Date: 14 Nov 92 20:04:01 GMT
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- In article <BxF6zI.GF@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Taylor) writes:
- >|> I'm looking for examples in fiction literature
- >|> of super sophisticated communicative computers a la HAL.
- >
- >The classic example, very like HAL, is the computer in
- >"The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress", by Robert Heinlein.
- >
-
- Most communicative computer books are really part of the
- old GOLEM genre (a Medieval Jewish tale of an alchemist
- who created an artificial man who ran amok). Some golems
- are good (eg, Rink-a-tink of Oz, Isaac Asimov's Robot series),
- but most are Frankenstein types. Robots have drifted out
- of fashion, replaced in part by androids and cyborgs, and
- new larege machines have appeared in science fiction. Some,
- like Colossus (The Forbin Project---I forget the author), HAL,
- Fred Saberhagen's Berserkers, and virtually every computer
- of Norton's, are up to no good. Others, like Heinlein's MYCROFT
- (The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is one of his less bad books)
- and Poul Anderson's MUDDLEHEAD (Trader to the Stars series)
- wear white hats.
-
- While the literature is huge (just go to a bookstore and
- look at the robot/computer books by Simak, Norton, Niven, etc),
- almost all these works were by computer illiterates and
- their computers are quite unreal. I have heard that there is
- a new "virtual reality" genre in SF which may be more realistic,
- but I haven't read any. Its probably like TRON. Your best
- bet may be something like the Andromeda novels of Fred Hoyle,
- who is an eminent if eccentric astrophysicist who writes SF,
- including SF with computers. Poul Anderson, Arthur C Clarke,
- and Isaac Asimov are all scientifically literate, so you can
- try them.
-
- >
- >Incidentally, this book is worth reading, not just for the relationship
- >between the hero and the computer, but also for the marvellous sense of
- >realism engendered by the thickness of the peripheral details and comments;
- >a thickness sadly lacking in most science fiction.
-
-
- Don't go to SF for characterization. SF writers are much
- weaker than, say, murder mystery writers on relations between
- characters. (There are a few good writers, like CJ Cherryh,
- David Brin, etc.) Heinlein is quite awful in this respect, but
- most of his fans forgive him because of his imaginative
- short stories. Detail thickness a la Thomas Clancy can be
- best found in books by people like Michael Crichton.
-
- -----Greg McColm
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