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- From: faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Abdullah Faruque,334CH,3752,2654247)
- Subject: Re: How to INCREASE PROCESSOR SPEED (recommended?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.220932.17524@news.clarkson.edu>
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- References: <wiegand.722013797@lido16>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:09:32 GMT
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- From article <wiegand.722013797@lido16>, by wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand):
- > y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM) writes:
- >
- >>In article <7347@kielo.uta.fi> f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes:
- >>>A subject of increasing processor speed by changing the crystal on
- >>>motherboard has popped up in this newsgroup a couple of times. This
- >>>sounds very interesting, but I wonder if anyone has used this method
- >>>to increase system performance without any loss in reliability. Anyone
- >>>care to share their experiences?
- >
- >>I heard from my friend that there are guys in Hong Kong change the
- >>crystal of a 486DX2/66 to a 40MHz crystal. The machine instantly
- >>changed to a 80MHz machine. I know nothing further about this.
- >
- > This will definatly reduce the reliability of the machine both in the short
- > term and in the long term.
- >
- > In the short term you will increase the possibility the soft errors
- > (one time glitches) bu running the parts faster than their rated speeds.
- >
- > In the long term you reduce the lifetime of the parts due to increased
- > heat form the higher operating speed.
- >
- I am running a 486DX-33Mhz at 40Mhz without any problem. I put an
- extra fan and heatsink to cool down the CPU and now the CPU is running
- at a much lower temp that it is used to run at 33Mhz (without any
- extra cooling). So, probably the long term effect, due to the extra
- heat generated by over running it, is zero. Actually it may even
- prolong the life, because it is running much cooler (with a fan and
- heatsink) than the max operating temp specified by the manufacturer.
- Normally, the manufacturer specifies the max operating temp of a CPU
- (or in general any semiconductor device) under certain operating
- conditions. If you increase the operating frequency then you must also
- provide necessary cooling to keep it under the max rated temp.
-
- Now the question is that how far you can increase the speed. There is
- no rule here, it may run at only 1% or as high as 30% above the rated
- speed. There are design limitations beyond which it will not work at
- all, even if extra cooling is provided. You have to do the experiment
- and find out the max possible speed that can be obtained without any
- soft error for a particular CPU. I found that a 486DX-25 can run at
- 33Mhz and a 486DX-33 can run at 40Mhz without any problem. But again
- that may not be true for all 486DX25/33 chips available. So, far I did not
- encounter any problem running DOS 5.0, Win 3.1, OS/2 2.0 and many
- other diagnostic and application softwares. I even pushed a 486DX-33
- to 50Mhz just to see what happen. I was surprised that the system
- booted up and most DOS based programs run (even Checkit passed all CPU
- tests), but Win 3.1 and OS/2 2.0 did not run at all when pushed to
- 50Mhz. I also pushed a 286-16 and a 386SX-16 to 20Mhz an both run perfectly.
- You have to consider the following things when pushing a CPU.
-
- 1. You must provide extra cooling to run it below max operating temp.
-
- 2. The motherboard must be rated at or above the intended speed.
- Otherwise you are looking for troubles ( in some cases it may work,
- but most of the time it will not work properly).
-
- 3. Check extensively with different OS, diagnostic and application
- softwares before you settle down at the intended speed.
-
- 3. The main memory and external cache (if any) must meet the speed
- requirement necessary to run without putting any additional wait
- state. If you have to put additional additional wait state, then you
- will loose performance and pushing the CPU may not even justify in such
- case.
-
- 6. Increasing the system clock will also increase the BUS speed clock,
- which is derived by dividing the system clock. In most new motherboards
- there is an option to select the BUS speed in the CMOS setup. So, reset that
- option as close to the previous setting, otherwise the system may not even
- boot up. The standard AT BUS clock is 8Mhz. You can go as high as 12Mhz if
- all of your cards (Vedio, HD/FD controller etc) can run at that speed.
-
- 5. Pushing the CPU and replacing the crystal may void the warranty.
- So, do not go for it if you care about the warranty.
-
- 6. If you do not feel confident enough to do the experiment, then do not even
- think about it. Not recommend at all for those who even hesitate to open
- the computer case.
-
- Please do not flame! I saw this topic several times, so I just
- compiled my experience here which may or may not be useful to others.
-
- -Faruque
- Email: faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
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