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- From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:24:41 GMT
- Subject: Re: Iterations on HP-48? Mail-order places?
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- In comp.sys.handhelds, akcs.tsblue@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Thomas Stewart Blue) writes:
-
- >
- > Iterations.............I believe not? ...
- > ... Say I am analyzing pipe flow. [parameters given] -- a basic fluid
- > mechanics problem. However, the solution is
- > necessarily an iterative, that is TRIAL & ERROR, procedure.
-
- Not any more. HP's SOLVER is versatile enough that the trial-and-error is
- no longer necessary. All you have to do ( riiiiiiight...) is find a way to
- express the problem in terms of a single equation. Numerical approximations
- for Reynolds number, for instance, abound in the literature, and they can be
- built into your equation. You can have the unknown variable appear on both
- sides of the '=' sign, even multiple times.
-
- When you study Numerical Analysis, the prof teaches you how to reorder your
- equation so that iteration always converges to a solution. The HP figures
- out all of that internally.
-
- The SOLVER routines in the 48 are so versatile and so powerful that you could
- even consider the SOLVER to be a second built-in programming language. Once
- you learn to use the solver effectively, you will never go back to RPL for
- normal plug-and-chug solutions.
-
- Now, the HP Solve Equation Library card contains 2 items that may be of
- interest to you: one is MES, the Multiple Equation Solver. If you can't
- organize your problem into one equation, then perhaps 2 or 3 (or more...) will
- do. The MES cycles through all the equations until a solution is reached.
- This is actually an iterative procedure. I don't know if MES reorders the
- equations to guarantee a converging solution or not, perhaps someone from
- HP can answer. The second item is a library of fluid flow equations,
- including the most accurate numerical Reynolds number calculation as of ...
- umm ... August 1988? '89? ... I don't remember. But it's definitely worth
- looking into. Several ChemE's and other fluidheads contributed to that
- part of the card.
-
- > It may be
- > argued that the basis for the procedure may stem from Newton's method of
- > approximation but that is only a basis for the procedure. An iterative
- > process must be followed outside of such a specific view to obtain the
- > result. Therefore, when I say that the hp48 series does not do iterations
- > I am refering to a procedural type of multiple equation dependent problem
- > and corresponding solution method, that being the most common type.
-
- Again, the MES on the Equation Library card does what you want, but I would
- suspect that you won't even need it, if you can figure out how to get the
- SOLVER to do it all at once.
-
-
- Regards
- Ray Depew
- Integrated Circuits Business Division
- Hewlett Packard Co, Fort Collins, Colorado
- rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
- Not an official spokesman for HP
-