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- From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
- Subject: Re: Falcon '030 BUS: 16 or 32 bit?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.110645.29992@email.tuwien.ac.at>
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- Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
- References: <28401@castle.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:06:45 GMT
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- marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn) writes:
- : hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
- :
- : >C'mon folks, let's get real here, OK?
- :
- : >Personally, I don't give a twit if the Falcon has a 32, 16, 8 or 2-3/4 data
- : >bus... as long as it performs and performs well in consideration of its cost!
- :
- : But the point is that a '030 on a 16 bit data bus isn't going to perform
- : nearly as well as an '030 on a 32 bit bus. The 16 bit bus will affect
- : almost all aspects of the machines performance. There were rumours that
- : the 'true colour' modes would cause contention over a 32 bit bus. The
- : 16 bit bus will not improve graphics throughput any.
-
- Why do people complain about things they haven't even seen? Just because
- 32 is 2 times 16 it doesn't mean the falcon would be 2 x faster if it had
- a 32 bit bus. And the video subsystem DOES have 32 bit access to memory.
-
- : [..]
-
- : The Falcon is not without competition. The A1200 looks considerably
- : better, simply due to the fact that it is a true 32 machine.
-
- Just try to compare the A1200 at 640x480x256 with the falcon at the same
- speed - the A1200 slows down to the speed of an A500 with that resolution,
- while the falcon 030 is about 2.5-3 times faster than a 8MHz ST. Does the
- A1200 still look better now? It's no point in discussing and complaining
- about the falcon's design if you don't even know how it looks. It's very
- cleverly done, IMHO.
-
- : The fact that the Falcon only has a 16 bit bus might not deter people
- : who own an ST from upgrading to the Falcon, but Atari desperately needs
- : to attract buyers who would otherwise have purchased a PC. Crippling
- : the Falcon to reduce the price was not the way to do it.
-
- "Crippling to reduce the price"... hah... If people are so stupid to
- think the falcon 030 is slower than an A1200 because it has a 16 bit bus,
- they deserve the A1200... :)
-
- : >Sure, a lower throughput bus probably would limit the _potential_ of the
- : >machine, but there _are_ considerations that were made for compatability with
- : >older ST/STe software. You don't have to like it, but be reasonable.
- :
- : No, these consideration were due to one thing only - cost.
-
- Yeah, sure! You know better...
-
- : As for compatability, a UK magazine testing games on the Falcon found that
- : they all worked fine provided they did not use the sound chip.
- : A grand total of 3 I believe.
-
- Hmm... sounds like the usual amiga-(f)lamer-add-on to his posting...
-
- : >All IMHO, of course. :)
- :
- : Of course.
- :
- : Mark
-
- Heh...
-
- -MY
-
-