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- From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
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- Subject: Re: What is g++?
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 18:16:36 GMT
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- In article <168A213D1A.C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu>, C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:
- > I cannot find anything like a manual or some basic instructions for G++, is
- >there such a beast? My problem is that I am going to try to teach myself C
- >over my Christmas break, but I will not have access to the net from my home.
- >Could some nice guy help me (a relativly inexperienced programmer) out with
- >the basics for C programming?
-
- First suggestion: do NOT get GNU C/C++ to learn about C programming, at least
- not until you feel comfortable giving up 5 megabytes of hard disk space for
- the compiler and spending an hour or two setting things up correctly. For the
- absolute beginner in C programming, I would recommend using Heat&Serve C (Ian
- Lepore's easy-to-install-and-run version of Sozobon C). You can get hold of
- the program from the atari.archive.umich.edu FTP site. The file name is
-
- atari/Languages/sozo133i.zoo
-
- As to the basics of C programming, go to your local bookstore, find the
- computer language section and look through the "Learning C" books to find one
- with which you are comfortable. SAMS has a nice series of books, the first
- titled (of course) "Learning C". Ignore books about Turbo C, MicroSoft C and,
- for the moment, anything from Dr. Dobb's (after you've gone through an
- introductory book, you can try the more daunting code in books from Dr.
- Dobb's...)
-
- About the only difference you'll find between Heat&Serve C and the C in the
- introductory books is where you get into ANSI-standard specifics. Learning
- the basics is pretty much the same whether you're using Portable C or ANSI-C.
-
- Once you've started getting comfortable with C, you can start using the
- Power Versions of C (GNU C, Pure C, etc...) Some of the C compilers will cost
- you a lot of money (Pure C was in the $450 range last time I checked, GNU C is
- freely distributed).
-
- When the MiNT/GNU C/shell/utility distribution kit is finally uploaded onto
- atari.archive.umich.edu (it's on hold at the moment, Simon, hint hint...), you
- shouldn't have quite as much of a hassle using (or installing) GNU C.
-
- You should probably start saving for a hard disk if you don't already
- own one. A 20-megabyte hard drive is going to be cramped -- check out the
- additional costs of a 50-megabyte hard drive -- especially if you're going to
- play around with GNU C. The resulting program code is fairly large compared
- with other C compilers.
-
- I hope this is the sort of information you needed. Feel free to ask for more
- information in this forum.
-
- -- David Paschall-Zimbel
-