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- From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: PIRACY
- Message-ID: <671NuB3w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 19:14:40 EST
- References: <1992Nov17.050712.28158@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
- Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
- Organization: Lakes Public Access
- Lines: 70
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- benw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (bennett.weber) writes:
-
- > 1) Someone illegally photographs U.S. military secrets
- > and sells it to the Soviet Union
- >
-
- Hmm, well, it's not that bad if, for example, you're a Soviet.... Still
- not the same. The 'secrets' were not available to the public for
- purchase, so it isn't like software at all.
-
- > 2) Industrial espionage gets the business plans of a
- > corportation into the hands of a comptetor.
- >
-
- Again, the information was not available for public perusal. It was a
- secret. Big difference.
-
- > 3) Someone Xeroxes the paper you wrote after 2 years
- > of intensive research and presents it as his own,
- > taking credit for an important discovery
- >
-
- This is an accurate portrayal of those who pirate software and sell the
- copies. It is not an accurate portrayal, however, of those who simply
- copy it. The proper example of piracy would be if someone copied your
- paper wihout permission, enjoyed reading it, and then maybe did something
- that was _allowed_ by your research, such as built a machine that was
- based on priciples you had discovered. This may not be exactly moral or
- nice, but it's not nearly so easy to condemn absolutely. After all, if
- he builds the machine, then something new, perhaps worthwile has been
- made. And if he doesn't, not many people would really care that he
- enjoyed reading the paper.... You still have your paper to do with what
- you will...
-
- > 4) A student plagiarizes (without credit, of course)
- > passages from literature and includes them in her term paper.
-
- I don't see this as even relevant. Piracy doesn't necessarily entail
- 'claiming authorship', it entails copyright violation by unauthorized
- duplication. A better example would be, you xerox some nice pictures for
- your school report without paying the photographer...
-
- >
- > In all cases, no one is deprived of their original "merchandise", but
- > few people would hesitate to use the word "theft" in describing the
- > crimes. What IS stolen is information, and if you think information
- > does not have value in and of itself, you're dead wrong.
-
- No, they wouldn't have hesitated to call them theft. The point is that
- your examples are not comparable to piracy. Again, for the net.zealots,
- I do not mean to condone piracy, merely to note the distinction between
- piracy and theft.
-
- >
- > Piracy if theft of intellectual property. If you don't want to
- > use the word "theft", pick another. But don't delude yourself
- > by hair-splitting.
- >
- Don't delude yourself by clouding the issue or adding extraneous details
- which tend to incriminate. And note, not everyone agrees entirely with
- the 'intellectual property' concept. I certainly have some profound
- reservations with it...
- > Ben Weber
- >
- >
- > --------------------------------
- > Not speaking for AT&T
- > --------------------------------
- >
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