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- From: jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: PIRACY
- Date: 20 Nov 1992 09:15:57 -0500
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- saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson) writes:
-
- >It is pertinent, since MANY pirated software titles come from these
- >nations. If this doesn't sound logical to you, then we have nothing
- >more to talk about.
-
- If originals are not exported there, then the only way pirated versions
- can come from there is if pirated versions were sent there, ergo; the problem
- isn't there, it's where the piracy started in the first place.
-
- >Or maybe they feel stealing cars and the like is wrong. Do try
- >and understand this: TO MANY PEOPLE, THERE IS A GREAT DISTINCTION
- >BETWEEN COPY-PIRACY AND TANGIBLE THEFT.
-
- It's still a rationalization just the same.
-
- And, it might not be tangible theft so long as you restrict your
- view to the disk itself, but it's not if you take into account the
- fact that using software derives benefit, be it recreational enjoyment
- or productive work. Whatever it is, the use of software nets you a
- quantifiable gain. If it can be quantified it is essentially tangible.
-
- If something tangible is acquired without paying for it then it is
- considered theft by any reasonable definition.
-
- >But since you haven't gotten it by now, you probably aren't going to.
-
- Sorry Scotty, it's you that hasn't yet "gotten" it.
-
- >It is true enough that many pirates wouldn't have the "balls" to
- >steal a car, though I myself wouldn't resort to such language to
- >prove it.
-
- Somehow, "visceral fortitude" doesn't carry the same connotation as
- "balls".
-
- >I have always thought that taking away the possibility
- >of punishment increases crime, and therefore exposes ones true
- >morals. Make sense?
-
- Not at all. Just look at the arguments for and against the death penalty
- for committing murder. Studies prove it's not a deterrent, so why have it?
-
- >If so, then you will agree that software piracy
- >is an excellent example of what many people believe in, yet would
- >not necessarily admit.
-
- Sadly, piracy is more of a lack of self-control then anything. Maybe our
- society has become too materialistic, but it doesn't really excuse people from
- taking things that they don't own, no matter how convient it is to do so, or
- how easy it is, or how little harm it is percieved to cause on someone else.
-
- It's still wrong, and it is harmful, if you choose to really see things for
- the way they really are.
-
- >This discussion was intended to give the anti-pirate people some
- >insight into the rationale behind many pirates; pirates who don't
- >view pirating as strict theft for more reasons than because they
- >simply cannot get caught. However, it appears that you represent
- >a sensitive side of the anti-pirate community who doesn't want
- >to know what others are thinking, because it simply pisses you off
- >to the point of name calling.
-
- What pisses me off is when people try to justify inexcusable behaviour with
- seemingly logical thought. It's still a rationalization, pure and simple.
-
- There is no honor in being a pirate, no matter what you may think. If you
- want my respect, admit what you're doing is thievery and that you are a thief,
- I still won't agree with what you do, but at least you're not hiding behind
- some sham of a rationalization.
-
- -jack-
-