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- From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
- Subject: Re: AMOS (was: Programming)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
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- References: <mwm.2ndl@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us> <92321.092123DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
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- Message-ID: <mwm.2olh@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 11:20:15 PST
- Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
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- In <92321.092123DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote:
- > In article <mwm.2nuv@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us
- > (Mike Meyer) says:
- >
- > >In <1e6v5sINN3om@ub.d.umn.edu>, rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) wrote:
- > >> BTW, I'm sure Mandarin is working on a verion of AMOS that takes
- > >> advantage of the AGA chips (If that is not handled in AMOS Pro).
- >
- > >Don't bet on it. If you've been reading the c.s.a newsgroups
- > >carefully, you'll have noticed that CBM isn't releasing hardware
- > >documentation for the AGA chipset. Seems they are sick and tired of
- > >trying to keep things like AMOS alive.
- >
- > I imagine they must be sick and tired of maintaining the OS as well.
-
- Sigh. Ok, you who know so much - when is the new hardware manual
- coming out? And why are the folks at commodore.com so busy defending
- not releasing them?
-
- > By the way, WHAT "serious" applications do you use your Amiga for?
-
- I guess you've given up on defending AMOS (wise move on your part),
- and are now switching to personal attacks. Oh well; that's part of the
- fun.
-
- > I'm curious. Also, please supply a list of Amiga programs you've
- > written.
-
- What's this have to do with anything? I can't recognize misbehaving
- programs unless I've written programs? Or maybe it's that you don't
- think anyone should be allowed to criticise ill-behaved programs
- unless they've written something?
-
- If you really want a partial list, check the fish disk catalogs.
-
- > You must consider yourself an expert, since you are so quick
- > to criticise everyone.
-
- No; I only criticise packages that are misbehaved and idiots like you.
- Fortunately, the latter category is very small.
-
- > I still don't understand what you mean by "behavior problems". AMOS is
- > an Amiga application running under Exec. It doesn't use Intuition.
- > Why? Because Intuition does not support AMOS. Have you noticed that ALL
- > the good Amiga games take over the display?
-
- No, I haven't noticed that at all. What I've noticed is that most of
- the ones that don't work properly took over the display. Of course, I
- don't consider pretty pictures and fast-moving objects to be the sole
- judge of game quality; things like playability are also important. The
- best games rank high on playability; almost none of them take over the
- display. Most of the ones that do probably had a good reason to.
-
- > (not counting the compiler). Have you written anything remotely as large?
- > (Yourself, not some kind of group project).
-
- Not that much source. I've probably written larger programs. I just
- wasn't foolish enough to try doing them in something that required as
- much source as assembler does.
-
- > Enough ranting for now...
-
- Oh well, at least you know what you're doing.
-
- <mike
-