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- From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
- Subject: Re: Programming
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- Date: 17 Nov 92 10:46:53 PST
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- In <92321.132122DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote:
- > In article <mwm.2nmz@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us
- > (Mike Meyer) says:
- >
- > >> AMOS that WILL let you do everything on the workbench if you want, instead
- > >> of forcing you to use your own private screen.
- >
- > >Like I said - the problem is the package, not the language. It'd be
- > >nice if they fixed it.
- >
- > No it would not be nice! Let me ask you, what is the point of making a new
- > programming package with the same limitations as the previous (e.g.
- > AmigaBasic)? Well, none. Gee, I guess the point is that AMOS let's you do
- > things easily that are -impossible- normally.
-
- Impossible? Hmm - you really are as silly as you sound.
-
- > But since it doesn't do
- > EVERYTHING under the sun, it's no good. Couldn't use more than one
- > programming language. Oh no!
-
- Nope; it's only good for a very small set of things. It's not
- something I'd recommend to anyone.
-
- > >This is a good reason NOT to start with AMOS, especially since there
- > >are alternatives that are easier to use, and are system-compliant; at
- > >least for most things.
- >
- > First of all, do you know -any- beginning programmer who's first
- > inspiration is to produce some kind of system-compliant GUI thing?
- > Hell no. They bought an Amiga for its custom chips and want to make it
- > work for them.
-
- They did? You've personally asked *ALL* of them?
-
- > Besides, programming GUIs is boring as anything; why
-
- Can't argue with that.
-
- > would a recreational programmer want to do it? Just so he can have
- > the approval of stuffy people like you? Hehe.
-
- I guess you'd rather have them write things with lots of pretty lights
- to fascinate the easily amused like you. And not worry about actually
- working with anything else on the system, because nobody really cares
- about doing something usefull with the Amiga.
-
- > >"Doing it a little differently" means "it looks like it's not
- > >multitasking, and it screws up other programs, and it confuses
- > >people." That's more than I can say about most programs.
- >
- > What can I say, you are easily confused. :-)
-
- At least I'm not so confused that I think that AMOS is usefull.
-
- > >It also appears to steal keyboard input, and disable certain intuition
- > >calls (or at least cause them not to happen). This means that hotkey
- > >commodites in general don't work. Of course, given the general
- > >behavior of AMOS, it could be some other obscure thing it's doing
- > >wrong. While these things aren't a problem per se, such behavior is a
- > >bug in anything but a game (and in most of those).
- > ╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗╗
- > Just adds to your credibility. :-)
-
- Riiiight. It's not a game unless it's got lots of fast-moving objects
- to keep the very dull amused. Things that actually require thought as
- opposed to ape-like reflexes aren't games.
-
- <mike
-
-