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- From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
- Subject: Re: Programming
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- Date: 15 Nov 92 12:26:27 PST
- Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
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- In <1992Nov15.181050.24020@ugle.unit.no>, eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) wrote:
- > In article <mwm.2n8f@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
- > > These sound like things you want to write games, or to do
- > > presentations. They also aren't unique to AMOS; any serious multimedia
- > > or presentation tool has those capabilities. I'd be surprised if most
- > > of those aren't better for building presentations than AMOS. Guess
- > > what that leaves AMOS most suitable for?
- >
- > Fine. *YOU'D* be surprised. On the other hand, so would a sheep.
-
- You mean the sheep who think AMOS behaves acceptably?
-
- > > > to compare AMOS to C when it comes to writing utilities (but it still can
- > > > be done in AMOS),
- > >
- > > Utilities can? System-friendly, AUISG-compliant utilities? The
- > > evidence indicates otherwise.
- >
- > WHAT evidence? You're sure as hell not supplying any!
-
- How many times must it be said: EVERY AMOS PROGRAM I'VE EVER USED.
-
- > > Giggle. Oh well - I guess that's to be expected if you think that
- > > typical AMOS behavior is acceptable.
- >
- > Oh dear. Not only do we not like AMOS, we also don't approve of C. So, your idea
- > of a system-friendly language is what? Machine code (in binary, of course)?
-
- Answered elsewhere.
-
- > > I don't dispute any of that. However, it's not the only language with
- > > those features; and I *know* the alternatives let you build programs
- > > that don't have the AMOS bugs. I'm waiting for some one to tell me
- >
- > Oh, right, *THOSE* AMOS bugs. The ones you frequenty invoke, but never name.
-
- Named, repeatedly, elsewhere. But to repeat: every AMOS program I've
- ever seen interferes with the operation of other programs; every AMOS
- program I've ever seen disables intuition window/screen control; every
- AMOS program I've ever seen fucks the copper list before it starts.
-
- > > None, but you were disputing the point that it wasn't system
- > > compliant. If it can't do those things, then it's not system
- > > compliant. Of course, a beginning programmer should be exposed to
- > > proper programming *results* as well as technics. If AMOS can't do
- > > what I describe, then it can't do the former.
- >
- > How many times? It *IS* system compliant!
-
- Prove it. Post an AMOS binary that doesn't have the bugs listed above.
-
- <mike
-