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- From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: PC880B External Floppy and the A1200
- Message-ID: <37204@cbmvax.commodore.com>
- Date: 21 Nov 92 23:43:05 GMT
- Article-I.D.: cbmvax.37204
- References: <13651@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <37197@cbmvax.commodore.com>
- Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
- Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
- Lines: 52
-
- grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
- >In article <13651@ecs.soton.ac.uk> efp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Pritchard EF) writes:
- >> If you've got a Power Computing PC880B and want to get an A1200, bad
- >> news I'm afraid:
- >>
- >> The PC880B doesn't work with the A1200!!!
-
- >> I got a brand new PC880B for my A500 in October, and was quite pleased
-
- >> illegal!), and this month I got my A1200. They don't like each other!
- >>
- >> Perfectly valid disks are proclaimed to have a `read error' on them,
- >> cancelling the resulting requester multiple times often lets the data
- >> be read, and the disks work well in the internal drive (this happens
- >> for all disks OFS, FFS, OFS+DC, FFS+DC). Also the drive doesn't seem
- >> to like disk changes any more, often refusing to recognise a disk when
- >> you put it in, even if it is the same one that you just took out!
-
- >Most likely, they are using something other than the 1K terminating
- >resistors that are standard for the Amiga drives. I guess it is also
- >possible that there is some timing dependency in their device that
- >trips up on 68020 or 3.0 timings.
-
- It may the the resistors grr mentioned, but I also suspect the
- timing of various interface signals. You may well find that the drive has the
- same problem on all 2.0 machines. The <=1.3 trackdisk driver was somewhat
- slow, and had redundant code in places that slowed the sampling of some
- signals, and increased the time for some waits over our hardware spec for
- drives. We did put kludges into 2.04 for some drives that were slow at
- moving the DiskChange signal after select, and there's a patch in the 2.1
- setpatch to slow down the post-write delay to better handle some very old
- drives. However, with 3rd-party drives they may have no known the actual
- hardware specs for Amiga drives. (Few (if any) such companies contact us for
- information - they simply buy commodity drives, and if they work they ship
- them. Some or most may not even realize that there is a spec and that not
- all 3.5" drives manufactured meet those specs.)
-
- The relevant timings include (spec) 1200us post-write delay, 100us
- head-switch delay, 3ms step delay, 15ms settle delay. 2.04 uses 2000us
- post-write delay, 1000 us head-switch delay, and also adds ~15us delay after
- select before looking at DSKCHNG. The 2.1 Setpatch makes post-write delay
- 4000us. 2.0 makes step, settle, and calibration-step rates changable. 3.0
- makes post-write delay and head-switch changable also. (For information,
- <=1.3 used 2000us/1000us for post-write/head-switch delays, but with more
- overhead than 2.0x.)
-
- --
- To be or not to be = 0xff
- -
- Randell Jesup, Jack-of-quite-a-few-trades, Commodore Engineering.
- {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com BIX: rjesup
- Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
-