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- From: ahersee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Hersee)
- Subject: Re: Computer Concepts
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.170313.23057@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
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- Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:03:13 GMT
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- ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov18.111052.10914@cs.nott.ac.uk> rsxdp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (D.Pead) writes:
- >>In article <1eag79INNp27@oak49.doc.ic.ac.uk> ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:
- >>>If all these required their own incompatable dongles you'd be stuffed.
- >>>The short answer is you can only really have one dongle at a time, and
- >>
- >>Sorry, but BULL****!!! My machine has both Artworks and Impression
- >>dongles on the back and works fine (although strange things happen if you
- >>get them in the wrong order). There is no reason why dongles could
- >>not be daisy chained. Since Impression is a well-established product,
- >>any firm producing a program with a non-compatible dongle only has itself
- >>to blame.
-
- >And CC are really going to tell all-and-sundry the internals of their
- >dongles to anyone who wished to produce a dongle for their product
- >arn't they? Oh Yes of course they will, and what's that pig doing over
- >there?
-
- Maybe! Remember Oak's Worra CAD well that had a dongle until the A5000's
- came out when the simply sent me a version which did not use the dongle. So
- what do I do? I take my Worra Cad dongle apart :-) And hey presto the
- cheaply manufactured circuit board has CC's symbol on it! Thus any company
- could approach CC and ask for some dongles. (They had been quite clever
- and attempted to sand the top off the chips so that you could not read
- the chip numbers but fortunately wetting them slightly allowed you to
- just make out the numbers since the plastick had been slightly effected by the
- printing process)
-
- >The fact that Impression and Artworks dongles work together isn't
- >really surprising. But notice, as you said yourself, they have to be
- >in the right order. Now imagine if many companies used dongles, each
- >one would have to be tested with every single possible permutation of
- >all available dongles in the entire Arc world. Get above 4 and you're
- >stuffed. Add to this the total length of dongle tree involved and
- >you'd need an extra desk just for dongles (with or without
- >dongle-dangles).
-
- Yes it does state in the Artwoks manual that the Artworks dongle MUST be
- the closest dongle to the computer. They also state something along the
- lines of (I can't remember exact words) :
-
- We are aware that having more than one dongle is unsatisfactory. Our techinical
- people are working on a soloution.
-
- Oh a warning if you are going to buy ArtWorks and already have impression
- you may consider buying a dongle dangle (My friend did) don't! they supply
- a dongle dangle with ArtWorks.
-
- >>
- >>What would be more useful would be if a large number of software
- >>manufacturers (and Acorn) got together and produced a univerasal, non
- >>retsrictive but yet usable method of protection (and yes it can be
- >>done, it's just nobody want's to put the effort in).
- >>
-
- Hmmm. Well the A5000s have a private word but don't expect any software
- to use it and if some does then it will not prevent the user from using
- the software only display a message such as 'Illegal copy'. I am not 100%
- sure of the reasons but I think that the educational departments have told
- Acorn that they will NOT buy it's machines of software starts being protected
- in this way. Thus Acorn have told companies that they may NOT use the
- private word (Fervour almost did :-)), and if they do they will no longer
- support the company!!
-
- Andrew Hersee
-
-
- Disclamer:
- The above information was not given to me by Clares (The publisher of Fervour)
- and was not given to me under an NDA. (Obvious really since I would not have
- posted it eitherwise!)
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