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- From: nbvs@cl.cam.ac.uk (Nicko van Someren)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
- Subject: Re: The new Acorn Machine
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.133719.27313@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 13:37:19 GMT
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- In article <gilbertd.721643489@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> gilbertd@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert) writes:
- >In <10942@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> gpalmer@cs.strath.ac.uk (Gary J Palmer IE91) writes:
- >
- >>Personally, i think that RISCiX is overpriced, and comes with too much...
- >>if Acorn got rid of the Motif / X.desktop bundle, and perhaps made NFS,
- >>TCP/IP (is SLIP available under RISCiX??) and similar optional, I'm sure
- >>that for about 100 pounds for the base package, I'd buy it.....
- >
- >I agree, I commented to an Acorn representative at the BAU show,
- >that I could buy a 386 (or even a 486) and get a free unix clone
- >for less than I could buy RISCiX (including X).
-
- It may be that RISCiX comes with too much but the price that Acorn set
- for RISCiX is very good value for what to you get. An R260 is only
- 500 quid more than an A540 and comes with not only a full BSD4.3 with
- TCP/IP, NFS, and X but also X.desktop, both the Athena and Motif
- widgets and libraries, FORTRAN, PASCAL and C compilers, assembler and
- a good sized set of useful tools including gnuemacs. I once totted up
- how much a similar setup from SCO would cost for a 486 (and face it
- you need a good 486 to catch an R260, a 386 is not good enough). SCO
- unix gives you very little in the basic setup. The full set will cost
- you the best part of 2800 pounds retail in the UK. If you just want
- SCO with NFS, X, a C compiler and the various widget libraries it
- still costs over 1400 pounds.
-
- >I dont know what the price of commercial Unix's are for PC's,
- >but I suspect a reasonable 386 could be purchased with Unix
- >for less than RISCiX.
-
- If you want a similar setup and you are going to buy one of the maiin
- stream unix products then I expect you are wrong.
-
- >Of course one of the problems is the complete lack of
- >compatibility with anything except Acorns SCSI card,
- >thats why I believe they should give the tools for
- >building the kernel with RISCiX (I dont think they
- >do at the moment), and then 3rd parties would
- >write drivers for their cards.
-
- The RISCiX kernel binary kit is available to RISCiX license holders on
- request and it even comes with template code to show you how to write
- both block and stream device drivers. The fact is most 3rd parties
- dont care about RISCiX.
-
- Nicko
-
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