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- From: lee.matheson@synapse.org (Lee Matheson)
- Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
- Subject: Novell & TCP/IP Network Interconnection
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- Date: 21 Nov 92 23:50:00 GMT
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- Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
- Reply-To: lee.matheson@synapse.org (Lee Matheson)
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- To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
- From: lee.matheson@synapse.org (lee matheson)
-
- I'm looking for some advice/comments on the method we are considering
- to utilize to connect our Novell-3.11 network to a DEC Pathworks (VAX
- based) Network. I've posted this on the Novell nets, but since the
- approach we are taking is TCP/IP based, I suspect this may be a better
- conference in which to get some good feedback.
-
- Our Novell network is about 5miles from a DEC Pathworks site, which
- belongs to an external organization. Our primary requirement is:
- a. Run Vax applications from our Novell site (hence, VT-220
- emmulation is required.
- b. Transfer files (ASCII & binary) between sites
- c. Exchange E-Mail between sites (with ASCII & binary attachments)
- d. Print from the Vax site to our Novell site
-
- Secondary (nice to have) requirements are:
- a. Exchange E-Mail and files (ascii & binary) with other sites
- tied in to the VAX site
- b. Exchange E-Mail and files (ascii & binary) from our Novell site
- to our Head Office Novell site (which utilizes cc:Mail) over a
- phone line.
-
- Our plan is to use TCP/IP as a common protocol between the VAX site
- and our Novell site (see below).
-
- Company Head Office
- To other Novell-3.11 System
- facilities (running cc:Mail)
- (across |(phone)
- US & Canada) |(line)
- (Datapac X25?) cc:Mail gateway? ______|_______
- | &/or | mail |
- TCP/IP | cc:Mail Link |server/gateway|
- (mix of) | to SMTP ? |______________|
- (SMTP & X400)| to X400 ? |
- ___________ ___|___ ________ TCP/IP|IPX
- | Vax | |Cisco | 56Kbaud line | 486/33 |TCP/IP _____|_______
- |(Pathworks)|--|Router |<-------------->| Router |------|Concentrator |
- |___________| |_______| 5-miles |________| |_____________|
- |VMS-Mail (TCP/IP) -Multi-Prot Rtr |Novell-3.11|
- __|_______ (SMTP or) -WAN/LAN Link _____|___IPX_____|____
- | many PCs | (X400) | File | | many PCs |
- |__________| | Server | |__________|
- |_________| cc:Mail &
- -Flex/IP LWP4DOS
-
- TCP/IP Approach:
- Our selected approach to achieve this is to utilize an existing
- Cisco Router at the DEC VAX site to connect to a 486/33 router at our
- Novell network site, through a dedicated 56Kbaud line. We plan to run
- the Novell Multi-Protocol Router v2.0 and the Novell WAN/LAN Links v2.0
- programs (on the 486/33 router) in order to route TCP/IP packets from the
- DEC system on to our Novell network. I believe both TCP/IP and IPX
- would now be on our Novell network (Ethernet - 10BaseT).
-
- In order to access the TCP/IP packets that will now be routed on our
- Novell Network, we plan to utilize Novell LAN Work Place for DOS
- (LWP4DOS). We plan on this giving us file transfer (FTP) to/from
- the Vax, and terminal emmulation to the VAX.
-
- Printing:
- To print from the VAX (when we are using VAX terminal emmulation
- from our Novell workstations), we are considering utilizing the
- Novell Flex/IP package (on our Novell file server). We would like
- this to permit printing from the VAX, over the 56Kbaud line,
- back to our Novell network printer. The marketting brochures from
- Novell tell me Flex/IP will make a Novell printer look like another
- Unix printer resource, when the Novell network is connected to a
- Unix system. I am concerned that this may not work smoothly with
- a VAX running VMS (however the VAX may have, with its TCP/IP package
- some other UNIX type features). I believe LPD (line printer daemon?)
- may be supported by this VAX, and by Novell Flex/IP.
-
- Comments on the Printing approach? What is LPR/LPD?
-
- E-Mail:
- The VAX uses Pathworks VMS mail to exchange mail internally, and
- SMTP and X400 to exchange mail externally. From our Novell site,
- I would like to be able to exchange mail with our Head Office site,
- which uses cc:Mail.
-
- Hence, as depicted above, we are considering running cc:Mail, with
- some sort of "gateway" conversion package to convert cc:Mail to
- either X400 or SMTP. Lotus do have a "cc:Mail Link to SMTP" package.
- I'm not certain we can afford a conversion to both X400 & SMTP, ...
- we may have to select only one.
-
- To exchange mail with our head office I believe Lotus have a cc:Mail
- Gateway package. I've been considering running both "cc:Mail Link to
- SMTP" and "cc:Mail - Gateway" under Desqview, and multi-process both
- of them in the same PC (see above sketch).
-
- Comments?
-
- I've also heard Novell have their own MHS protocol, which makes
- communications between different protocols (such as SMTP/X400) possible.
- A solution based upon this sounds like it would be elegant, but I
- don't know enough about this to come up with an alternate systems
- approach with Novell MHS.
-
- Comments? Suggestions?
-
- Pathworks:
- We have also considered running DEC Pathworks on our Novell network!
- (rather than use LWP4DOS). DEC apparently market:
- a. Pathworks for DOS
- b. Pathworks for Windows,
- c. Pathworks for DOS (TCP/IP)
- d. Pathworks for DOS (Netware Coexistance)
- However DEC technical marketting support has been miserable, ...
- The off-site nature of our plan has puzzled everyone we have talked
- to, ... no two DEC technical marketting staff have agreed upon the
- same thing, ... hence this option has faded fast.
-
- Comments?
-
- I apologize for the length of this message, any comments/suggestions
- on any part of the above would be most welcome.
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-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- Lee Matheson, Ottawa
-
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