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- From: abrown@seqp4.uucp (Alex Brown)
- Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
- Subject: Re: What is ISO boot protocol's number?
- Message-ID: <ABROWN.92Nov17103207@seqp4.uucp>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 10:32:07 GMT
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- Organization: Sequoia Systems, Inc. Marlboro MA, USA
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- In-reply-to: mwr@eng.tridom.com's message of 13 Nov 92 14:31:40 GMT
-
-
- > Really two questions:
- > 1. Is there an ISO protocol for booting devices on a LAN (similiar to
- > IP's BOOTP)?
-
- Because the OSI model of an information system and a network is very
- broad and general, services as specific as booting of a diskless
- workstation are not really addressed directly. Some ISO standards and
- protocols do provide facilities that are related, however.
-
- The ISO Manufacturing Messaging Service (MMS) is a general-purpose
- remote device control service, although it was developed for
- industrial robots. It supports a download/upload facility for a
- "Virtual Manufacturing Device". Combined with "program invocation
- management" services, a BOOTP-like service could be provided.
- However, MMS is an application-layer service and its protocol
- implementation requires the full OSI stack to be in operation for a
- connection to be established, and booting of that stack is undefined.
-
- Probably closer to your intent, the evolving ISO network management
- standards provide for "configuration management" from a control center
- of a population of "managed objects" on the network; this includes
- creation and deletion of those objects, and control operations on
- them, by a remote management agent. The most important managed
- objects are the layers of the stack themselves, so it would fit well
- to define a management bootstrap action that begins with a short or
- null stack, brings up a tiny management agent, responds to a "Create"
- request (PT_CREATE CMIS request) for a managed object corresponding to
- a system with a local action to boot that system and initialize a full
- stack, and then resume management services over the full stack. The
- bootstrap procedure itself would be beyond the scope of the management
- action; it might, for example, be a proprietary link-level boot
- protocol based on a distinguished LSAP selected by the vendor (or it
- might in fact be BOOTP itself :).
-
- However, I don't think the management standards have evolved that far
- yet. Perhaps your description of more specific requirements for a
- boot protocol might get things going.
-
- > 2. What ISO document to I purchase to get its description?
-
- The standards I've referred to are:
-
- ISO 9506 Manufacturing Messaging Service and Protocol
- ISO 9595 Common Management Information Service
- ISO 9596 Common Management Information Protocol
- ISO 10040 OSI System Management Overview
- ISO 10164-1 OSI System Management - Object Management Function
- ISO 10165-2 OSI System Management - Structure of Management Info -
- Definition of Management Information
-
- > Thanks
- >
- > --
- > Mark
- >
- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- > | Mark Reardon | AT&T Tridom |
- > | mwr@eng.tridom.com | 840 Franklin Court |
- > | | Marietta, GA 30067 |
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