home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!news.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!cunyvm!ndsuvm1!bj020000
- Newsgroups: comp.programming
- Subject: Re: first-year programming languages
- Message-ID: <92320.183138BJ020000@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
- From: Dave Mueller <BJ020000@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:31:38 CST
- References: <1992Nov9.152324.2715@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu><wingo-111192171446@wingosmac.ap
- ple.com><1992Nov13.171915.26423@cbnewsc.cb.att.com><aelman.721693402@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> <dnebing-141192140340@m64-143.bgsu.edu>
- Distribution: na
- Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
- Lines: 33
-
- > What happens in the first two classes? The first two classes use
- >Pascal. The programming assignments are meant to teach the language
- >more than the concepts. When necessary, the students are practically
- >given the basic code which they only have to modify for their own
- >programs.
-
- (Sorry I lost the originator of this paragraph)..
-
- I'm curious as to what other people think about this.. 99% of the programs
- my CS teacher gave to me were like what the above paragraph is describing..
- All we had to do was take a program, either given in the book or in class,
- and make a few changes.. That was the assignment.
-
- I don't believe this is a very good way to teach. It doesn't promote
- any origanility (sp) and creativity.. How can you learn how to program by
- yourself if all you do is change a few lines of code?
-
- When you get a real job, most of the code you will write is going to be
- from scratch.. Granted there is going to be times when you modify existing
- code, but how can you create your OWN code when all you've been taught to
- do is modify someone else's.
-
- I tutor the programming languages they teach here, and I can really tell that
- most of this teacher's student's are not good programmers at all. They don't
- have even basic concepts such as modules (Modula-2 type) and ATD's. To me,
- it is really frustrating to see this happening. I transferred here from a
- school that made us write totally original programs, and I think that's the
- best way to go.
-
- Any comments?
-
- Dave Mueller
- bj020000@vm1.nodak.edu
-