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- From: henley@eng.auburn.edu (James Paul Henley)
- Subject: Re: Is Borland the leader in technology?
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- References: <1992Nov17.124222.12003@bsu-ucs> <1eecf5INNim8@early-bird.think.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:49:46 GMT
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- In article <1eecf5INNim8@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov17.124222.12003@bsu-ucs> 00skolis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
- >>Borland claims to be the leader in Object Oriented Programming. Why do
- >>you feel they can hold this title in concern to the latest in technology?
- >
- >They're probably making this claim based on market share, not necessarily
- >on technical comparison. This is a common marketing strategy. I wouldn't
- >be surprised if their Turbo C++ is the largest selling OO language product.
- >Does Turbo Pascal have OO facilities, too?
- >--
- >Barry Margolin
- >System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.
- >
- >barmar@think.com {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
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-
- You haven't heard? They introduced OOP way back in version 5.5, and they
- now have version 7.0 out. They also have OOP support in Turbo Pascal for
- Windows, and in fact, you really can't program for Windows effectively without
- using OOP. Since most CS departments look down their noses at PC based
- languages, I'm not surprised how little they know about TP. I spent an
- hour arguing with one of the professors in the CS department here one day.
- He kept saying: "Yes, but you cant do XXX in Turbo Pascal". I would then
- explain *exactly* how to do XXX in Turbo Pascal, and he would say "Yes, but
- you can't do YYY in Turbo Pascal." ad nauseum. He finally ran out of things
- that he thought TP could not do, and was literally speechless.
-
- So far, every attempt to implement object oriented Chemical Engineering
- applications in Smalltalk and Lisp have fizzled. Those languages simply
- cannot handle the number crunching necessary. For me and my purposes,
- Turbo Pascal is the *only* current language that even comes close to handling
- what I need to do. I have tried Prolog, CLIPS, C++, etc.
-
- I am having a really hard time getting people in the Computer Science field
- to understand our needs in Chemical Engineering. Every major OOP development
- in Chemical Engineering has required *too* much computer expertise to use.
- I thought that was what OOP was supposed to avoid! I'm going to find the
- right OOP tools one way or another, even if it means going to graduate school
- in CS and then developing them myself.
-
- James P. Henley Jr.
- Chemical Engineering Dept
- Auburn University
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