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- From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
- Subject: Re: sendmail+IDA host hiding question
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.135459.17270@mp.cs.niu.edu>
- Organization: Northern Illinois University
- References: <1ea29rINN7ll@plts.uucp>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:54:59 GMT
- Lines: 82
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- In article <1ea29rINN7ll@plts.uucp> tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
- >I just want to hide the names of all my hosts. I think I'm setting up
- >reverse name-hiding correctly, but it's not working. I want all mail
- >to come from my.do.main no matter what machine it was actually sent to,
- >and be delieved at my.do.main nomatter when in *.my.do.main it was
- >addressed to.
-
- I believe the domain hiding is working properly.
-
- > I want mail sent to {any node}.my.do.main to be routed
- >to mailhub.my.do.main and delivered on that machine.
-
- This is the part which is not working. Delivery processing is handled
- by a different mechanism from hiding. The intention is that you might
- really want to deliver on a variety of machines under control of aliases,
- so to allow the aliasing to do this the hiding must not touch the
- delivery envelope.
-
- >Hosts are:
- >
- >mailhub.my.do.main
- >node1.my.do.main
- >node2.my.do.main
- >node3.my.do.main
- >node4.my.do.main
- >[ actually, there are about 125 hosts, but you get the point. There
- >is only one mailhub. ]
-
- I recommend that you add a MAILERTABLE to your setup, and insert in that
- table the single entry:
-
- value key
-
- LOCAL!localhost .my.do.main
-
- This will cause any mail for 'anyhost.my.do.main' to be delivered by
- the local mailer. There are other ways to do this which don't require
- a MAILERTABLE, but in practice the mailertable approach is the simplest
- to use.
-
- >We're behind a firewall, but we can get directly to anything in do.main
- >(which includes my.do.main corportate.do.main research.do.main, etc.)
- >and "other.do.main".
- >
- >So, when I put sendmail into test mode "-bt" and give it:
- >"3,0 foo@node1.my.do.main"
- >it tells me that it's going to send it to foo @ node1 . my . do . main
-
- Test mode can be confusing. The MX lookup is not seen in the output,
- since the lookup would occur later in the processing. On any system
- other than mailhub, this mailer/host selection would actually result in
- the MX record being followed and the mail delivered to mailhub. On
- mailhub, however, sendmail will notice that the MX points to itself,
- and refuse to follow it, so will follow the A-record instead.
-
- >At first I thought that sendmail was ignoring the MX records. Then I
- >realized that what's happening is even worse than ignoring them.
- >
- >The MX record isn't saying "deliver to mailhub", it is saying, "mailhub
- >knows how to get the message to node1". So, sendmail figures, "yes I
- >do know how to get to node1, I send it via TCP!" and doing just that.
-
- I don't see this as "worse than ignoring" the MX. It just happens to
- be inappropriate for your application. As you surmise, the MX record
- just says that mailhub knows how to handle the message. It requires
- separate configuration action to specify to mailhub how the message
- should be handled. In the absence of special instructions its default
- is to do whatever it can - in this case follow the A-record with the
- TCP mailer.
-
- >What I need is for sendmail to notice that it can treat mail for node1
- >as if it is for mailhub.
-
- That is what the MAILERTABLE entry above will do for you.
-
- >How do I do this?
-
- >Who ever explains this to me gets a free lock of hair. I've been
- >pulling so much out of my head over this I have tons to give away!
-
- Thanks, but no thanks.
-
-