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- Newsgroups: comp.human-factors
- Message-ID: <Uf4GDbS00aw54HjnZu@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:33:11 -0500
- From: "Daniel C. Wang" <dw3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Subject: Re: Click to Raise Windows vs. Point to Raise
- In-Reply-To: <By6G8n.n2.1@cs.cmu.edu>
- References: <3904326@bailey.UUCP>
- <By6G8n.n2.1@cs.cmu.edu>
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- hopkins@cs.cmu.edu (Don Hopkins) writes:
- > ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey) writes:
- >
- > mattf@cac.washington.edu (Matthew Freedman) writes:
- > >
- > <stuff deleted>
- > > Before we change the system to match this defacto standard, the
- > > point-to-raiseists would like to see hard evidence that click-to-raise
- > > is really better. Does anybody have any? If not, unsubstantiated
- > > personal opinion would be welcome too.
- >
- > I wouldn't be too concerned about which is better, but would instead
- > try to recognize a standard when one exists. By doing it the way you
- > are, one way or the other, you are forcing people to have to relearn
- > a method, either when they come to your system from MS-Windows/Mac,
- > or when they go to it (as they surely will). The question then becomes
- > how many additional people are you going to force to have to go through
- > the relearning curve?
- >
- > I strongly disagree with this attitude. It certainly does matter
- > which one is better. The "single active window on top" metaphore is
- > just not appropriate for a multitasking environment. But instead you
- > want to saddle the users with a bad interface because it's just like
- > the first one they were unlucky enough to learn. You are assuming
- > users are too stupid to learn, and complaisant enough to keep using an
- > inferior interface. Since they managed to learn one bad interface in
- > the first place, they should be capable of learning a better one, and
- > if they use it with any regularity and it improves their performance,
- > then their time going through the relearning curve was well invested.
-
-
- Standardization is a bad idea if it does not allow users to choose
- between environments which they themselves are used to. The ultimate
- user intereface is one that is flexible enough to change with the
- users tastes. There is no best choice in this case. I frequently use
- both the Mac and X windows UI, and think click to focus and pointer to
- focus should be done differently on each platform. When I have a
- small screen like the Mac it's important to make sure the focus is on
- the current window. On a large screen and a truely mutlti-tasking
- environment pointer to focus makes sense. I have a personal
- PREFERENCE against pointer to raise, but that's my taste. At least
- in the X windows envoriment I can customize either preference.
-
- Here at CMU the default set up for mwm is click to focus, but a large
- precentage of users change the X resource to pointer to focus, and an
- equally large number of people leave it as it is. And I just switched
- to twm, because I like it that way.
-
- My only problem with this is a lot of new users who don't like the
- pointer to focus aren't sophistaced enough to change the resource.
- There should be a GUI intereface that allows users to easily customize
- their setup, something that an UI should allow. Easy of flexibality
- is the foremost important goal for any UI IMHO.
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