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- From: lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Tapping modem communications?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.061100.12813@spectrum.CMC.COM>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 06:11:00 GMT
- References: <ywR6TB2w165w@chadal.Gwinnett.COM> <722028638snx@cursci.demon.co.uk>
- Organization: CMC Network Systems (Rockwell DCD), Santa Barbara, CA, USA
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- In article <ywR6TB2w165w@chadal.Gwinnett.COM> chuck@chadal.Gwinnett.COM writes:
- >>> Apparently it is no problem to tap a 300-2400baud modem. I read that
- >>> it is possible to tape record the phone line and then play the tones back
- >>> into a modem, is this really possible??
-
- No problem. In fact, many early personal computers used this for mass
- storage: An audio cassette deck with a modem was used for program
- storage. Cheap, although slow.
-
- This old modem technology used separate frequency bands for the two
- signal directions, and each frequency band can be enhanced as needed.
-
- Modern V.32 and V.32bis modems can probably not be tapped without a LOT
- of signal processing. These modems use the same frequency band for both
- directions. They first study the line characteristics carefully with a
- carefully constructed test message. Having learned what kind of echo you
- get back (-20 db at 15 msec, -30 db at 20 msec ...) they proceed to
- blast the outgoing data down the line; listen to the same pair of wires,
- and subtract their own outgoing signal as well as the calculated echo
- profile. What remains, must be the signal from the other end.
-
- The problem is that at any point in between, the echo characteristics
- are different, and the outgoing signal has already been distorted, so
- what you must subtract at the tap point is different from what the
- sender subtracts at the injection point.
-
- I am still very impressed at the performance of V.32 bis modems and
- shake my head in wonder that they think it can still be doubled for the
- next generation.
-
-
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