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- From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Telebit T1000 in Japan
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.074346.16866@netcom.com>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 07:43:46 GMT
- Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov17.074346.16866
- References: <3169@aegis.or.jp> <1992Nov9.184924.15291@netcom.com> <3203@aegis.or.jp>
- Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
- Lines: 91
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- davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
- >gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:
- >
- >>In article <3169@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
- >>>gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:
- >>>>
- >>>>While the Telebit modems available in Japan are more expensive than
- >>>>their U.S. equivalents, they've been approved by the Japanese telephone
- >>>>authorities and are supported by the local dealer.
- >>>>
- >>>A few years ago, a T2500 from Swire (see below) cost 248,000 yen
- >>>(US$2,000). A friend of mine is sysadmining a UNIX system under a
- >>>Mombusho grant (National Education Ministry) and they got two
- >>>approved T2500s, paid the full price and could get no support from
- >>>the distributer. From what he has told me the distributor is just
- >>>that, a distributor. Support? Uhhh.... That's what c.d.m. is for,
- >>>isn't it? :-)
- >
- >>Really? The dealer would not support the product? I've been told by the
- >>higher-ups that dealers don't get the contract until they agree to support
- >>the product. Any other arrangement isn't practical for Telebit or the
- >>customer unless Telebit opens offices in every country where the modems
- >>are approved.
- >
- >In case you haven't been here what is said ('tatemae') and what is
- >really meant or really happens ('honne') have almost no relationship
- >in Japan. In this case, according to what my friend said (and he
- >shall always remain nameless as social harmony is perhaps the most
- >important thing here) it's not that they wouldn't, it was more that
- >they knew less about the product than he did.
- >
-
- It's not just Japan where what was said doesn't match reality. Ask nearly
- any technical support rep.
-
- >
- >>I'll pass your comments to the folks who know what's supposed to be
- >>happening with our overseas dealers. I don't want to leave our Japan
- >>customers hanging without any support.
- >
- >Where have you been? Did you miss a bunch of traffic in this
- >newsgroup?
- >
-
- No, Dave, I read just about everything in this group that has to do
- with Telebit, Hayes, USR, and the like. Unless someone starts
- discussing Telebit support issues under the subject line "Supra
- MNP probs", I'm not going to miss it.
-
- I'm simply aware of the difference between tatemae and honne in this
- newsgroup, as your two articles demonstrated. What people say isn't
- always what really happens.
-
- >
- >Telebit has only a limited number of modems approved for Japan, the
- >prices from its sole authorized distributer are more than double
- >what the equivalent goes for in the U.S., and support is minimal to
- >non-existant. From what I've read in c.d.m. it's the same in the
- >U.K. and perhaps other countries as well.
- >
-
- I've seen posts about other brands of modems. It's not just Telebits
- that carry higher price tags for approved modems. I've seen the very
- same complaints about approved USRs and Hayes'.
-
- >
- >In the case of Japan, some organizations need Telebits for the PEP
- >so they pay the freight and deal with the problems themselves. In
- >the case of other modem like USRobotics, they aren't approved, and
- >can't be purchased here (tatemae): Yet if you dial around the
- >country you find <gasp> that many BBSs are running USRobotics (honne).
- >
-
- What sort of support do they have from USR?
-
- >
- >So don't worry about Telebit's support. Everything is OK. Quoting
- >what your higher-ups say is fine (tatemae) :-)
- >
-
- I'm surprised at this response. Are you telling me you DON'T want
- Telebit to improve their support for products overseas? I noticed
- your other message mentioning you now resell Digicom modems.
- Congratulations!
-
-
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