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- From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
- Subject: Re: C source for Fractal compression, huh !
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.233425.12529@maths.tcd.ie>
- Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:34:25 GMT
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- radford@cs.toronto.edu (Radford Neal) writes:
-
- >Go right ahead and adopt this Turing machine for all your computing
- >needs if it makes you happy, but I suspect you'll find it a bit slow
- >and awkward, as well as difficult to get good repair service for.
-
- You misunderstand completely.
- Just beacause you define a unit of time in terms of
- the spectral frequency of caesium,
- that does not mean that every wristwatch
- has to include a caesium laser.
-
- >As for myself, I'm happy to use whatever machine seems convenient at
- >the time. In particular, if I'm interested in storing images compactly
- >for later display, I'm happy to use a "machine" that is carefully
- >tailored so that there are short "programs" that produce images that
- >crop up a lot, at the expense of long "programs" for images that don't
- >occur very often.
-
- You will find that in order to separate your "easy" images
- you will need rather a lot of cyles on the universal Turing machine U.
-
- >What is it about data compression that induces so much confusion in
- >the layperson?
-
- Which category do you place yourself in?
- Since you base your comments on my posting,
- which referred explicitly and exclusively
- to Chaitin/Kolmogorov Algorithmic Information Theory,
- may I ask if you have read anything on this subject?
-
- >Half of them seem to think it plausible that one
- >could compress any data set into practically nothing without any
- >knowledge of the source probabilities, while the other half think
- >that knowledge of the source is irrelevant in light of mythical
- >"theoretical limits" . . .
-
- They are not mythical.
- It is you who confuse theoretical and practical matters.
- You dismissed my theoretical definition of informational content
- (or entropy)
- on the grounds that it was not based on practical computing practice.
- This is like dismissing the special theory of relativity
- on the grounds that Einstein
- did not try to drive faster than the speed of light.
-
- --
- Timothy Murphy
- e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
- tel: +353-1-2842366
- s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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