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- From: mash@mash.wpd.sgi.com (John R. Mashey)
- Newsgroups: comp.arch
- Subject: Re: MIPS and MHz
- Keywords: RISC, MIPS, cps
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.005122.8937@odin.corp.sgi.com>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 00:51:22 GMT
- References: <1992Nov12.183424.29331@boole.uucp> <BxMn1J.GB3.2@cs.cmu.edu>
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- In article <BxMn1J.GB3.2@cs.cmu.edu>, lindsay+@cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) writes:
- |> NetCmmnd@boole.uucp (System Administrator) writes:
- |> >How can a non-superscalar implementation at 50MHz run 59.1 MIPS?
- |> >I thought the holy grail of RISC was 1 instruction retired per cycle
-
- |> However, "Dhrystone 1.1 MIPS" have ceased to be reasonable. The
- |> "MIPS" is calculated by assuming that the VAX 11/780 was 1 MIPS, and
- |> then taking an execution-time ratio versus a historical VAX value.
- YES.
- It is interesting to note that the SUNFLASH introducing the low-end machines
- emphasizes MIPS-ratings (and doesn't even say Dhrystone-mips....) and says:
-
- "....
- These new Sun(TM) workstations deliver 59.1 MIPS, with the SPARCclassic
- offering industry-leading value at $63 per MIPS.
- ....
- These new systems deliver more performance than `486 PCs, with 59.1
- MIPS, 26.4 SPECint92 and 21.0 SPECfp92."
-
- It is interesting to note the historical trend:
-
- System SPECint92 MIPS-rating MIPS/SPECint92
- SS IPC 13.8 16 1.2
- SS2 21.8 28.5 1.3
- -------------
- SS LX 26.4 59.1 2.2
- SS10/30 45.2 101.6 2.2
- SS10/41 53.2 109.6 2.1
-
- Yep:
- 1) Higher performance than `486 PCs: is certainly true, you can find 486 PCs
- that are slower ... of course, you can find some that are faster,especially
- with positioning in commercial market, and where 486DX2-66 certainly has a higher SPECint92. The Sun's SPECfp92 is higher, I think.
- 2) There were no cost/SPECint or SPECfp numbers, just cost/(unspecified) MIPS;
- obviously the former can be computed....
- 3) What's really fascinating is the combinations of compilers used to get
- the various numbers (from other announcements):
-
- CINT92: Sun C 3.0 Alpha
- CFP92: Apogee C & FORTRAN 0.82 Alpha with integrated Kuck (for Classic & LX)
- Sun C & FORTRAN 3.0 Alpha + Kuck (for SS10s)
- MIPS: Dhrystone 1.1: Apogee C 0.82 Alpha
- LINPACK: Apogee FORTRAN 0.82 Alpha
-
- Apogee is listed as being available 1/93; the Sun compilers in 5/93.
- Hence:
- If you want best Dhrystone- MIPS rating, use Apogee C
- If you want best SPECint92, use Sun C in 5/93
- If you want best SPECfp92, use Apogee (soon, for low-end), or
- Sun (in 5/93 for SS10s)
- If you want best LINPACK, use Apogee (soon)
- It will be fascinating to see which combinations real people will choose:
- maybe somebody from SMCC would care to post something about advice to users about which compilers to actually buy?
-
-
- --
- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: <generic disclaimer, I speak for me only, etc>
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