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- From: shanks@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Mark Shanks)
- Subject: Re: Grad school comments
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.170454.9426@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com>
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:04:54 GMT
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- In article <2B0917E4.DC7@deneva.sdd.trw.com> shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) writes:
- >> Much in the same way you have to have a High School Diploma or a B.S.,
- >> a graduate degree is pretty much required as proof of competency in
- >> the field of AI.
- >
- >Hah! Again I say HAH! I've been working in the field of AI for ten (count 'em,
- >ten) years, and I have a BA. Not even a BS, and not even in comp sci (although
- >I DID minor in comp sci).
- >
- >>Bottom line: If you want to pursue a career in AI, then get the graduate degree
- >>(even if you don't want to)... get it done... it's a "union" card.
- >
- >Nope. It's not only NOT a union card, but out of the productive people I've
- >worked with, only one has had a doctorate (which was in psych), and a small
- >handful have had master's degrees. Advanced degrees are for those who are
- >serious about research. If you can't make it in research, don't think that
- >industry wants you.
- >
- >>Added dislaimer: Of course, it is possible to have a career in AI without a
- >>graduate degree, but it's just not very probable.
- >
- >Yeah, right. In the past ten years, I've worked with lots and lots of people.
- >They didn't have graduate degrees for the most part, and they have had great
- >careers. In fact, the only person that I've known who has an AI background and
- >is also out of work has a doctorate.
-
- Mmmmmm, I disagree with you, Lynda, at least as far as the larger corps.
- You are quite fortunate - *most* large engineering-oriented corporations
- (at least in my experience) won't even TALK to you without a BSEE/BSCS,
- and, as is largely the case with Human Factors, for AI an advanced degree
- is de rigueur. Mind, I'm not saying that's the way it OUGHT to be, but
- I think your experience is more the exception than the rule. I would
- be prepared to do a LOT of fancy tap-dancing if I wanted to get my foot
- in the door of a serious AI lab without at least an MSCS. Maybe not
- a "union card"; more like a ticket or a coupon good for 90% reduction
- in harrasment during interviews.
-
- Mark Shanks
- shanks@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com
-