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- From: ap.6443@cupid.sai.com (Michelle Fiera)
- Newsgroups: alt.transgendered
- Subject: Re: Tough questions.
- Message-ID: <Bxs1tq.8AM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
- Date: 15 Nov 92 21:46:36 GMT
- References: <BxMLBz.Duz.2@cs.cmu.edu> <1dvo4qINNkvf@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
- Sender: scg@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kelly Martin)
- Organization: Rice University
- Lines: 92
- In-Reply-To: <SCG.92Nov14214522@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
-
- In article <SCG.92Nov14214522@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> you write:
- >hackbod@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (Dianne Hackborn) writes:
- >>I consider myself a fairly sexual person; I don't feel shamed about
- >>my sexuality and feel that it is something that should be celebrated
- >>as a fundamental part of being human. And I certainly am not going
- >>to let my sexuality be taken away by some belief that it contradicts
- >>my feelings as a TS. I believe that 95% of sex is in the head, and
- >>spent a long time with my fantasies as the only outlet for these
- >>feelings; I've built up a nice variey of sexual fantasies which
- >>allowed me to escape my body for at least a little while.
- >My, this sounds familiar....
-
- This makes 3 of us. The recent conflict going through my head has
- been whether or not the fact that I'm ocassionally sexually aroused
- while wearing women's clothes means I'm therefore not a TS. I've
- finally determined that who or what I get sexually aroused by is
- completely distinct from my gender identity. All
- these discussions really are great! I hadn't talked to anyone about
- any of these feelings until about a week and a half ago, and I've
- already learned so much about myself..
-
- >>I have masturbated many times while wearing women's clothes... and I
- >>have masturbated many times while wearing men's clothes [well, more
- >>like androgynous clothes... I won't willing wear anything that is
- >>Definately Masculine. :)]. And I have even masturbated while wearing
- >>nothing at all! So, am I one of those icky-yucky TVs [and not just a
- >>TV, but a FETISHISTIC TV. *gasp!*] who only likes the clothes for
- >>the sexual thrill? No. I enjoy sex, and I don't feel any desire to
- >>Prove My Transsexualism by repressing it.
- >Oh, dear. This is sounding even more familiar...
-
- Yeah, if I didn't know otherwise I would think I might have written this
- myself.
-
- >>And I don't know if I can say that I _hate_ my genetalia... But I
- >>know that I don't want them how they are, and _wanting_ to pay
- >>$10,000 to have them fixed probably requires quite a bit of dislike.
- >>:)
- >Well, I don't really hate them; I just don't think they really belong
- >there. It's not their fault, after all. :)
-
- Right, I mean my genitals do provide me with pleasure now, but they're
- not in sync with my general being. It's a lot like owning a Yugo, while
- yes it does drive - it's not the kind of car I want to drive. :)
-
- >>[Actually, I don't feel any desire to prove I'm a TS, period. I see
- >>it as simply a description of my current state, and something that I
- >>will hopefully get corrected.]
- >Unfortuantely, the psychiatric establishment often makes you do so if
- >you want do anything about it. :(
-
- Hmm... I see a vicious cycle coming on. People who want the surgery
- lie to their councilors so they can get the surgery done, which in turn
- reinforces these councilors stereotypes of a "typical" TS. I wonder if
- there is any way to break this cycle. Are there any TS psychologists?
-
- >>However, I eventually realized that I am _much_ more comfortable with
- >>my sexuality than with being a TS. I enjoy every twisted turn of my
- >>sexuality - from being bi, to being submissive, to being fetishistic.
- >>[OK, I probably just enjoy calling myself a fetishist... I call
- >>myself that because of my enjoyment of binding
- >>clothes/rubber/whatever, which is probably more a result of being a
- >>submissive. But anyway... :)]
- >*sigh* You and I sound almost exactly alike.... I'm also sub and
- >fetishistic (unfulfilled, for the most part, grumble; money reasons,
- >mostly), as well as bi. And I am most probably TS.
-
- Make that three of us. I've been too confused to enjoy most of my
- sexuality unfortunately. I've been alternatively repressing different
- parts of it at different times in my life. I've only recently come
- out to myself about some parts of my sexuality. I have memories of
- enjoying being tied up as early as ages 3-4, I first learned of my
- TS/crossdressing tendencies about age 12, and I've only very recently
- begun to discover the bi side of my personality.
-
- >Oh well. I just had to reply because I felt such a connection to
- >Dianne I couldn't let it go by unsaid. Long lost sister, maybe?
- >*grin*
-
- I also felt a powerful connection to this letter, as it described a
- lot of what I've been going through as well.
-
- (maybe triplets seperated at birth? :))
-
- *hugs*
- Michelle
-
- anyone wishing to send me email send to ap.6443@cupid.sai.com (anonymous)
-
- --
- Intolerance is not a lion. It's a weasel.
- -- Dean Kaflowitz (decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com), talk.abortion
-