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- From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
- Subject: Re: Sexual Harassment
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.012516.19297@wam.umd.edu>
- Keywords: obnoxious behavior
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- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:25:16 GMT
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- In article <osickey.722283947@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu> osickey@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey) writes:
- >>Discussion of sex is not evil if it is done in the context of a
- >>neutral power balance. Discussion of sex *is* evil if you are a
- >>6'5" 250-pound linebacker holding down a 5'2" 100-pound wisp of a
- >>woman and asking her if she wants rear entry while she tries to
- >>squirm out from under you and is yelling and screaming for help.
-
-
-
- To which I respond: Only a dumbass woman would
- get herself in such a position. The exception to this
- is the out-of-the-bushes type of rape, which is
- one of the least common forms. Call it "blaming
- the victim," but when someone does something that leads
- directly to--or does nothing to prevent an obviously
- approaching--bad situation, that's stupidity and I have
- no moral qualms about pointing out what a fool that
- person was.
-
- This does not excuse or lessen the crime (IMHO, such
- animals, like murderers, child molesters and so on
- ---deserve to be killed. Let's get rid of them and
- have it done with. There's mistakes, and there's
- permanently damaging a human being. The latter can
- NEVER be excused as a "mistake"..)--but it MUST
- be considered. To pretend that it isn't an issue
- is dishonest.
-
-
-
- >>"No" means NO.
-
-
- That's very clever. Unfortunately, it is _not_ always
- true. Human beings learn from experience, not from catch
- slogans, and experience will tell most males that "no"
- does _n_o_t_ always mean "no", or at least not "no" as
- in "stop _everything_ right now!"
-
-
-
- > I would like to present a few very depressing statistics:
- > The most over-reported (i.e. falsely) crime in the US is rape.
- > The mos under-reported (silent) crime in the US is rape.
- > The second most over-reported crime in the US is sexual harassment.
-
-
- According to police, among crimes rape is has one of the
- highest--it was either number two or three--incidence of
- false reports. It was a very few percentage points away
- from number 1 (something like 3%) and 14-20% above the
- next highest [after rape]. Note that this is _false_
- reports, not unresolved or dropped claims.
-
- The thing I found most interesting about this article
- (Washington Post--I believe I saved it, but it's in my
- stack) was that the women who file such claims are
- not punished _at all_. Not only that, but they are not
- even required to pay the costs the man (innocent!) that
- they accused accrued in his own defense. Further, the
- damage done to that mans reputation and community standing
- is _never_ repaired.
-
- In fact, the one quote I remember came at the end of the
- article. "We don't send them to jail, we recommend that
- they see a therapist and get help."
-
- One woman in the article had dragged one man through the
- entire process twice, and three others through once each.
-
- So you'll excuse me if I laugh at your statistics, or at
- least consider them one sided.
-
-
- --
- Robert Stephen Rodgers || rsrodger@wam.umd.edu || IRC: Yamanari
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