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- From: robert@informix.com (Robert Coleman)
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- Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
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- Date: 19 Nov 92 23:30:26 GMT
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- slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen) writes:
-
- >Part of the function of advertising is to create a desire on the part
- >of the buying public for a particular product. One of the most effective
- >mechanisms for creating desire is to plant an idea in the consumer that the
- >consumer is somehow inadequate and by purchasing the advertised product
- >the consumer will be whole and complete. This is an effective mechanism
- >for the simple reason that most people have problems with their self-image
- >or have a strong concern with their self-image.
-
- >The point is, by offering idealized images of women, and men, too, advertisers
- >are *deliberately* trying to reach the deepest, most sacred confines of our
- >psyches in order to manipulate our purchasing impulses. By recognizing this
- >reality of modern existence, the individual is a step closer to rejecting
- >the unrealistic human condition portrayed by the mass media and is also a
- >step closer to taking control of their individual existence. Be very aware
- >and very cautious and never delude yourself that your psyche is untouchable
- >by these magicians of manipulation. And if you are still convinced
- >that your decision-making processes and concepts of self-image are not
- >impacted by cultural pressures, try not wearing deodorant for a few weeks
- >and observe how your friends and co-workers react.
-
- I remember reading once about an advertising firm that specialized in
- deliberately obnoxious commercials. They were quite successful, but they would
- have been completely unsuccessful by this analysis, because these ads would be
- tying in negative psyche images with the product.
- The commercials worked because advertisements have a very different
- fundamental goal; their main purpose is to *get your attention*. And much
- like a kid who isn't getting attention will sometimes turn to bad behavior in
- order to get some attention, advertisers realize that *any attention is
- better than none*. If you leave their sound byte knowing the name of their
- product when you didn't know it before, their job is done.
- People who don't bother doing comparisons will buy a name they
- recognize before they'll buy something they've never heard of; people who do
- comparisons will only be comparing products they've heard of. People who
- examine a product to see whether they like it for a multitude of other reasons
- will be looking for a product they've heard of. The important thing is to
- *get your attention*.
-
- I don't own any Bugle Boy jeans. I know that bugle boy colored jeans
- exist, though; they showed a sexy commercial on MTV. A lot. They reached
- out with a lot of very fundamental psyche-tweaking images (for the average
- heterosexual man) and I payed attention. Why didn't this commercial succeed
- in "making" me buy those jeans?
-
- A lot of reasons, really. I'm comfortable with blue jeans. I don't
- see a lot of other people wearing the colored jeans, so I have no desire to
- conform to *real* pressure (peer pressure). I already have a fair investment
- in jeans, and I hate shopping. I have a brand I like already. Etc. Etc.
-
- I frankly enjoy this commercial more than most I've seen on television
- in some time, both because they're being frank and honest about what they're
- doing and what they're saying, and because I like sexy images. If
- psyche-twisting was effective, I'd have to say I oughta have a closetful of
- Bugle Boy Jeans by now.
-
- Coke spends a great deal of money trying to convince me that diet coke
- tastes good. The medical industry, as well, spends a lot of time trying to
- convince me that being even moderately "overweight" can kill me. Coke's
- current ad campaign ("You've got the right one, Bay-ay-bee!") pushes almost
- all the buttons: sexy, underdressed women, power, fame, glamour and glitz,
- excitement, rock and roll; the other big button, death, is punched by our
- medical profession. None of this has been able to convince me that anything
- "diet", par*tic*ularly anything with nutrasweet, tastes good.
-
- The commercial can't make me desire the product. All it can do is let
- me know that the product exists, so that I can try it, and evaluate it for
- the things that really matter.
-
- I've read the popular analyses of advertising; "appeal to authority",
- "positive association", etc. The very basis of these analyses is that people
- are incredibly stupid. Sure, if Bill Cosby says Jello is fun, well, it *must*
- be. If there's a bikini'd babe draped over that convertible, well, she must
- come with the car. Or at least be an option.
-
- People just aren't that stupid. When's the last time you heard an
- argument along the lines of "Well, of *course* jello is fun! Bill Cosby said
- so!" The much simpler explanation is that people watch the jello commercial
- because they like Bill Cosby, and eat jello because they like jello. People
- buy more of the car that the woman is draped over because they go try out
- the car, and like it. Advertising is full of examples of well advertised
- duds, because people don't buy a product because of ads. All that ads do is
- raise interest; people may *try* the product, but if they continue to use it,
- it's because the *like* it.
- (I would believe, however, that "pseudo-facts", such as "This product
- contains Retsin, a miracle drug!" can fool people. This isn't manipulation
- of psyche, though; it's appeals to the intellect).
-
- Oh, re: deodorant. The example you've given has nothing to do with
- advertising; it has to do with peer pressure. Peer pressure is a proven
- manipulator. As it happens, I don't sweat most of the time (for instance,
- at work) so I don't use a deodorant unless I know I'll be sweating. If
- anyone *ever* told me I smelled bad, I would use that deodorant in an instant,
- but the reality of my life is very different from that projected by the
- commercials. The cognitive dissonance is obvious, and makes the commercial
- ineffective as a manipulator. Still, when I buy a deodorant, I'll probably
- buy one of the ones I've heard of; as far as I'm concerned, they're
- essentially interchangeable. Ban spring to mind; OK, I'll buy Ban. I'll buy
- it before one I've never heard of, even if the one I've never heard of is
- cheaper, out of nothing more relevant than superstition.
- But none of the commercials have convinced me that I've got to wear
- it all the time. I notice that you've gotten a similar reply from some other
- folks. That leaves an interesting question: why do *you* believe it's so
- necessary, when others do not? Since we're all subjected to the same
- commercials, it probably has more to do with other factors, like how we were
- raised, than the commercials...
-
- Meanwhile, I don't really know how we decide on what physical images
- define our human ideal. I don't think anyone else knows, either. I do know
- that we've had physical ideals, and they've changed cyclically through the
- years, from well before we developed the concept of advertising; I'd look for
- some other source.
-
- Robert C.
- --
- ----------------------------------------------
- Disclaimer: My company has not yet seen fit to
- elect me as spokesperson. Hmmpf.
-