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- From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
- Subject: Re: Name That Deity contest!!!
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- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.194845.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:48:45 GMT
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- In article <By6sKq.6z2@ddsw1.mcs.com>, bes@ddsw1.mcs.com (Bes) writes:
- > ###rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
- > : I'm fed up with all the complaints and criticisms, both on and off
- > : the Net, for my chosen religion.
- > :
- > : I could use logic to explain my position, but you know athiests,
- > : they have their faith and "know" what's Right :)##
- >
- >
- > Do you know any better?
-
- It was mild humor on my part. Notice the smiley. It was also serious.
- I have had run-ins with a few atheists and agnostics who "know" the
- way the world works and have a narrow definition of "Satanism" which
- they are determined will exclude me. It doesn't matter if their
- opinion isn't important to me, they continue to express it to me.
- Much like a few people of other religions I have run into. It was a
- little joke, based on a few people, much as my frequent characterizations
- of "Xians" are based on a few people.
-
- I know what works for me. I dont pretend to know whether it will work
- for anyone else.
-
- > ##: So instead I want to try something different. I want to be
- > : something else besides a Satanist. One little problem: I need a
- > : good symbol. Are there any gods, or other appropriate beings, who
- > : would be good for representing:
- > :
- > : Night
- > : Death
- > : The bestial side of humanity
- > : Worldly power
- > : Love (for your own side)
- > : Sex
- > : Equality
- > : Knowledge, reason, enlightenment
- > : Change (e.g. overturning the status quo)
- > : Dualism######
- >
- > Then you shouldn't be asking that question in alt.satanism if you don't want
- > to be one any more.
-
- How many people on alt.satanism believe in Satan?
-
- I asked here because many of the qualities I listed have been related
- to Satan over time. I hoped that other readers of this newsgroup, being
- interested in the topic of Satan, might have some knowledge of the
- history, and related figures in mythology, that they could share with
- me. In fact I have gotten some interesting suggestions.
-
- > Besides, you have good enough symbols in night, death, love, sex etc.. just
- > worship these as they are said. But do you really know what you want?
-
- Yes. I know what I want. If I wanted to simply worship those things as
- they are I would become--oh, I don't know the name offhand. Something
- similar to a pagan. I know what I want, which is why I gave a list and
- requested a symbol to sum them up.
-
- To clarify my position, which I thought would be clear if one read
- between the lines, but evidently I am wrong, I wanted to be a
- Satanist with a different name so I didn't catch as much flack.
-
- > :
- > ##: That's all I can think of for now. If anyone comes up with a
- > : suitable god, I guess I'll switch over. Otherwise, I'll have to
- > : start practicing Black Masses in order to justify my continued
- > : existence, and I would so hate to go to all the trouble of
- > : becoming a defrocked priest.
- > :
- > : --Semhaza (of course I'll still be the Antichrist)##
- >
- > Semhaza, you're putting us on. I thought you were serious, but with this
- > last statement.......really.;-)
- >
- > Bes
-
- Okay. It's been almost a year and nobody has yet asked *why* I am the
- Antichrist. Probably most have assumed it is a juvenile tough stunt.
- Maybe a few have guessed at the real reason (Shaitan did, for one, but
- he has an edge).
-
- I am the Antichrist because I have taken it upon myself to do what I can
- to combat what I see as the worst features of Christianity in my
- society. I feel that some of its elements have done and continue to
- do a great deal of harm in the US, and I want to do my part to remedy
- the situation. I feel it is one of the main causes of the miserable
- state this society is in. Were I to go to a different planet and find
- a similar situation, I would have to become the False Prophet, the
- Non-Ziggurma, or whatever. It's a title and a description, nothing more.
- Because I included some humor in my post does not mean the whole thing
- was a put-on.
-
- Sigh...I can see I've opened a real can of worms. I dont think I've
- ever chased anybody off the group just because they said they didn't
- want to be a Satanist....
-
- --Semhaza
-