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- From: chamberk@ucs.orst.edu (Kevin Chambers)
- Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,or.politics
- Subject: Re: Homosexual marriage (was: The Difference Between Cs and Ls)
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- Date: 24 Nov 92 04:04:11 GMT
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- In article <1130@bug.UUCP> stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce) writes:
- >In article <BwvFLt.E6w@news.orst.edu> chamberk@ucs.orst.edu
- >(Kevin Chambers) writes:
- >>So yes, society has an obligation to support those who raise children.
- >>**ALL** people who raise children. That includes gay and lesbian couples
- >>who are taking on the immense responsiblity of parenting.
- >
- >No, no, no. Society has no such obligation. I said that it is in
- >society's interest to promote and encourage that children are raised in
- >a good environment. If you can show that in general, homosexual
- >couples raise children as well as their actual parents would, then you
- >would have a case. The evidence I've seen suggests kids are best off
- >with both of their natural parents. Therefore, it is in society's
- >interest to promote that relationship, and no other.
- >
- You're making a big jump when you say that children would be much better off
- in only heterosexual, natural-parent families. Whether you call it an
- "interest" or whether I call it an obligation, society runs much better with
- children who are well supported, well loved, and allowed to be who they are.
- That can happen in a gay/lesbian family as much as a straight one. I don't
- buy this business that kids are best off with their natural parents--I want
- to see direct references to any evidence that gay families are unhealthy.
- As for the one that I know of personally, the family is much better off
- than when the abusive "natural" father in the house.
-
- As far as parenting goes, what I've read is that the best situation is one
- with multiple familes living together sharing in the duties of parenting.
- The nuclear family, when you get right down to it, is nothing but a nice
- little consumer unit, not the best situation for parents OR children.
- Children need adults around them who are alert, attentive, and loving; and
- the working parents I know are so wiped out at the end of the day they
- precious little to give to their children. How much a person can love a
- child has NOTHING to do with whether they are gay, lesbian, or straight.
- I think this whole business about not supporting gay marriages has a whole
- lot more to do with fear that those crazy homosexuals are going to corrupt
- our children and the rest of sociy ththan with REALLY supporting children.
- It sounds like what you really want is to slow down gays and lesbians being open
- and free with who they are. When you provide economic privileges only to
- straights in respect to marriages, that's what effectivley happens.
-