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- From: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
- Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
- Subject: Re: The Words of Rush
- Summary: Why don't animals have rights?
- Message-ID: <1141@bug.UUCP>
- Date: 22 Nov 92 18:51:05 GMT
- References: <1992Oct28.024022.2384@netcom.com> <1992Oct28.210510.22927@ils.nwu.edu> <1129@bug.UUCP> <1992Nov17.160613.6990@ils.nwu.edu>
- Reply-To: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
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- In article <1992Nov17.160613.6990@ils.nwu.edu>
- hooker@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER) writes:
- |In article <1129@bug.UUCP>, stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce) writes:
- |> And this is where you make your mistake. You have twisted what he said
- |> without realizing it. Rush did *not* assert that the ability to enter
- |> into agreements is what *grants* *individuals* Rights. You have
- |> switched from the general to the particular.
- |>
- |> Human beings as a group have Rights, in part, because they can in
- |> general enter into agreements (actually, I would say that this is not
- |> the reason for Rights, but a necessary condition to Rights).
- |> Individuals have Rights because they are human beings, not because of
- |> any ability they have or lack. Individuals can only be deprived of
- |> their Rights by due process of the law.
- |
- |I have to admit that I wish Clinton did not Waffle so much in the election,
- |but compared to this he has balls.
-
- Why do you say that? I did not waffle.
-
- |Rush said; animals can not enter into contracts therefore animals do not
- |have rights. Now I pointed out that this could be applied to abortion and
-
- And I explained why it could not be correctly apply to abortion above. I
- stand by what I said. I don't think you made any effort to understand it.
-
- |suddenly everyone said, no Rush didn't mean A he meant B.
-
- That "everyone" does not include me. Do you blame me for the sins of
- others (what you quoted above was my first posting on the subject)? I
- think Rush meant what he said, and *you* misunderstood it, and still
- misunderstand it.
-
- |When I examine B then its no Rush didn't mean B he meant C. Over time we
- |get closer and closer to the assertion that Animals don't have rights
- |because animals don't have rights. (Which is what you are saying)
-
- No it isn't. Let's go to the heart of the matter. Why do you think people
- have Rights? I don't think you understand the philosophical underpinings
- of the notion at all.
-
- |Talk about endless revisionism and relativism. I don't know what scares me
- |more, the open moral relativism and ruthelessness of some on the left or
- |the ability to covertly employ these techniques on the right.
-
- I employed no revisionism or relativism.--
- orstcs!opac!bug!stevef I am the NRA Steven R. Fordyce
- uunet!sequent!ether!stevef . . . Deer are for Dinner
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