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- From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
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- Subject: Re: ENGLE: up to his old tricks (>)
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- Date: 19 Nov 92 16:25:47 GMT
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- ged1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Gregory E. Daigle) writes:
- >nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
-
- > What about giving them a battalion composed of gays only? I'd like
- >to be in a battalion with people like me. A group of politically conservative
- >people who enjoy the finer things in life would suit me just fine.
-
- This sounds vaguely reasonable, but the scenario has been acted out
- before in the form of the British Army in 1915/1916. During the First World
- War Britain's Lord Kitchener called for volunteers pledging that those who
- signed up together would be allowed to serve together. It was overwhelmingly
- successful at first, but the regional composition of the battalions was the
- precursor to tragedy. As waves of shop-keepers and clerks were cut down in
- thousands on the fields of France, their communities were simultaneously
- striken with grief that is sometimes difficult to comprehend. Have you ever
- heard the phrase "the Lost Generation?" Just think of the tradegy it would
- portend if all those lost were right-thinking conservatives.
-
- >> Well, I also have problems with Quantum theory, but I wouldn't say
- >>that either I or Albert Einstein should be considered outcasts. Einstein's
- >>criticism was usually more than just blowing smoke. Wasn't Dirac's
- >>relativistic QM a direct response to Einstein's criticism?
-
- >--You have problems with Quantum theory? Hmm, I'd like to know how much you
- >know about it.
-
- Admittedly not much. Most of what I recall came from a book by Emilio
- Segre called _From_X-rays_to_Quarks_. Since Segre was a contemporary of
- Einstein and Bohr I find his description of the personal interactions
- involved in the development of QM quite fascinating.
-
- >--Hopefully you don't have any problems with the stuff we have done here at
- >Cornell involving QM. That'd be inexcusable. Fermilab, ok.
-
- No, I don't have problems with empirical work either then or now. The
- thing that I (and Albert) have (had) problems with is the Copenhagen
- interpretation of the theory (essentially that beneath a certain level
- statistics are all there is and determinism goes out the window). Certainly
- at that point our tools for understanding and investigating are all
- statistical, but I just don't believe that low level particle interactions
- are purely due to chance.
-
- > Read, AN AMERICAN LIFE, by Ronald Reagan.
-
- Currently I'm plowing through _Plagues_and_Peoples_ by William McNeil,
- and the next thing on my list is _The_Te_of_Piglet_ by Benjamin Hoff (sequel
- to _The_Tao_of_Pooh_).
-
- After that, who knows. I keep waiting for some conservative to buy me a
- copy of Rush's book since I can't bring myself to do it.
-
- --
- Nathan Engle Software Juggler
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