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Path: sparky!uunet!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!oneb!periodic Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: B-CPU: (FAQ) A Layman's Guide (Long) Message-ID: <almanac-e_722030824@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> From: periodic@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Periodic Manager) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:07:12 GMT Followup-To: alt.revisionism Expires: 30 Jan 1993 20:07:04 GMT Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA Keywords: b-cpu,IHR,Carto,Smith,Gannon Lines: 556 Revision Date: 02 Nov 92 (knm) The material in this article contains information obtained during the course of the continuing debate between the holocaust deniers and those who find their assertions vulgar and disgusting; much of it was contributed by others on the net. Organization: 1. My site doesn't offer alt.revisionism - how can I follow discussions? NOTE: As b-cpu lacks access at the moment, the section dealing with building kill files has been split-off and archived. It will be published as an FAQ in its own right if and when b-cpu returns to UseNet. Those who would like to obtain the file are welcome to request it, as b-cpu-kill.faq. knm. 2. The $50,000 "Offer" - Criminal fraud? 3. Some Holocaust research source material - 4. The "Institute for Historical Research" - overview 5. Bradley Smith, CODOH, etc. 1. MY SITE DOESN'T CARRY ALT.REVISIONISM - HOW CAN I MOVE TRAFFIC THERE? If your site does not receive alt.revisionism, and your system or news administrator won't bring it in for you, I'd be happy to send it to you via email - just let me know you want it, and I'll add you to the redistribution list. If you would like to _post_ to the group, and don't receive it on-site, send your article to "arevise@oneb.almanac.bc.ca" and the system will post it for you. The subject of your email message containing the article will become the subject used for the posted article. Better yet, the "Updated Internet Services List" notes the following: > -News Mail Servers mail [newsgroup]@cs.utexas.edu > offers: Post to Usenet via email. So, you may address your article to "alt-revisionism@cs.utexas.edu" and it will be posted for you from that site. 2. WHAT'S THIS ABOUT AN OFFER OF $50,000 (U.S.) THEY SAY IS AVAILABLE? Holocaust-deniers here have claimed that a "standing offer" exists regarding aspects of the Holocaust; the same article is repeated at regular intervals, and mentions the figure of $US50,000. Those who have posted this "offer" article, including Dan Gannon, the sysop of "b-cpu", and the personalities "Peter Faust", "George Martin" and "Ralph Winston" have been asked the following questions on at least two dozen occasions, and have either refused outright to answer, or or simply ignored them: 1. What is the legal name, or names, of the individual or individuals, or organization that has made this offer? 2. What is the legal mailing address of the person, persons, or organization making this offer? 3. What is the name of the bank, and the branch of the bank, which holds funds in trust with regard to this offer? Unless answers to these questions are forthcoming, one can only dismiss constant references to the "standing offer" as outright fraud; when you see the "offer" repeated, make a point of asking these questions of the person posting the referral. FALSUS IN UNO, FALSUS IN OMNIB-CPU... To Dan Gannon, of Portland, Oregon, I address the following questions - 1. Are you the owner and operator of the computer system known as "b-cpu"? 2. Is the posting of this "$50,000 offer" being carried out with your knowledge and consent? 3. What is your legal address for the purpose of registered mail? (Is "1537 SE 43rd. Avenue, Portland 97215" as listed in the UUCP maps correct?) (I recommend that anyone concerned about this issue direct the above questions, or similar questions, to Mr. Gannon, via registered mail. If the letter is returned unopened, please advise me, and keep it available as evidence. If the letter is _not_ returned, please advise me, and keep your receipt as evidence.) However, lest there be ANY mistake in our view of this "offer", we provide the following response and append our names thereto: We accept your offer. We are a group dedicated to truth. We propose the following: 1 - Identify yourself by name, address, and telephone number. 2 - Convey proof of deposit of $50,000 U.S., per respondent below, in a bank. 3 - The bank of your choice will be escrow holder, directed to pay to each of us on rendition of a verdict in our favor by the tribunal to be appointed. 4 - The tribunal will consist of three retired judges of courts of original jurisdiction to be nominated by the now sitting chief justices of three states of the United States, all three to be chosen by you. 5 - The tribunal will sit in a centrally located state to be chosen by the tribunal. 6 - The trial will be limited to 5 days of testimony with unlimited opportunity to present documentary evidence. Documentary evidence shall include but not be limited to trial transcripts (Nuremberg and post Nuremberg war crimes trials), photographs, motion picture films, and sworn affidavits. 7 - The votes of two of the judges shall determine the issues. The two judges shall have the authority to direct the escrow holder to pay the $50,000 to each of us should the verdict be in our favor. 8 - Each party shall pay its own expense of the trial. 9 - We will pay 50% and you will pay 50% of the judges, courtroom rental, court reporter fees; all in advance. Signed, ---------------------------------------------------------- Briaer, Paul A. pab1@quads.uchicago.edu Diviney, Patrick F IV diviney@u.washington.edu Edelstein, Rad re0x+@andrew.cmu.edu Friedenberg, Gedalia friedenb@egr.msu.edu Gross, Leon Joel tb13@midway.chicago.edu Harmon, Brian BPHARMON@MIAVX1.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU Jefferson, Paul PAULJ@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Kottmann, Brett demon@wsu.bitnet McVay, Kenneth Neal kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca Molinari, Juan JMOLINARI@hamp.hampshire.edu Saxe, Eddie eddie@uncvx2.oit.unc.edu Simon, Daniel R. me@theory.toronto.edu Steeg, Evan W. steeg@ai.toronto.edu Urner, Doug dlu@wobble.uucp If you would like _your_ name added to the list above, simply send me an email message to that affect and I will append it. (Note: I anticipate that this section of the FAQ will soon become a separate publication of its own, due to rapid growth of the list above. Please don't be alarmed if it disappears from this FAQ - I will publish it twice monthly along with this FAQ.) 3. I'D LIKE TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND MAKE UP MY OWN MIND. CAN YOU PROVIDE SOURCES FOR ME? I have assembled a bibliography which now contains over 1000 entries, including over 500 from the UCSD library alone, and hundreds from European and Israeli sources. This list is freely available to anyone who requests it, and is available at several sites where it can be collected via anonymous ftp. Contact kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca and include the word BIBLIO in your SUBJECT line. The bibliography will be mailed to you in three parts. A mailing list has been established which may provide additional assistance with Holocaust research, particularly as it relates to denial. For more information, send a message to listserv@oneb.almanac.bc.ca, and include the single command 'info holocaust' as your message text. A recent copy of our Almanac Holocaust files may be obtained via anonymous ftp from menora.weizmann.ac.il, as /pub/texts/lest.we.forget/oneb-txt.tar.Z - If you do not have ftp access, I'd be happy to send the collection to you as uuencoded email. Please specify *.ZIP or compressed tar format. Individual files are also available via listserv. Send your request to: listserv@oneb.almanac.bc.ca, and include the single word 'index' for a list of available articles, or 'index holocaust' for a list of Holocaust Almanac articles. For individual files, use the 'get' command, and the archive flag 'holocaust' to have them mailed to you.. Example: get holocaust <filename> get holocaust b-cpu.faq get holocaust irving.canada If you can find a copy of Claude Lanzmann's documentary SHOAH, shown on PBS several years ago, I recommend you start there....it's about 8-9 hours of viewing, and well worth the time and effort - it is under constant attack by the IHR and others of their ilk, so you know it hits home! (SHOAH can sometimes be ordered at video shops.) I understand that Yale has a large archive of video testimony; I would very much appreciate it if someone could obtain the catalog for me, so I can include it in my bibliography. And finally, I close this section with suggestions offered by Vera Laska on researching the Holocaust: Yad Vashem Martyrs' and Heroes' Memorial Authority in Jerusalem is a depository of documents and memoirs on the Holocaust, mostly in German, Hebrew and Yiddish. It also issues the Yad Vashem Studies on the European Jewish Catastrophe and Resistance. The Centre de Documentation Juive Contemporaine in Paris and the Wiener Library in London are major sources of information. The Wiener Library's catalogue series published a bibliography, Persecution and Resistance Under the Nazis (London: Valentine, Mitchell, 1960). ... In the United States the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research (1048 Fifth Avenue, New York, N.Y. 10028) houses several collections of ghetto documents and related primary source materials. It publishes the YIVO Annual of Jewish Social Science. Since 1960, Yad Vashem and the YIVO Institute have been engaged in preparing a multivolume bibliographical series on the Holocaust; one of the volumes, Jacob Robinson, ed., The Holocaust and After: Sources and Literature in English (Jerusalem: Israel University Press, 1973) is most helpful. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (823 United Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y. 10017) supplies teaching materials at reasonable prices, for instance The Record - The Holocaust in History, 1933-1945, published in cooperation with the National Council for Social Studies in 1978. The Library of Congress and the National Archives are rich sources for researchers, containing among others the transcripts of war crime trials. This in itself is an immense documentation; for instance, the Nuremberg Doctors' Trial of twenty-three defendents alone takes up 11,538 pages in nineteen volumes. Indexes can be consulted about various concentration camps. ... [Laska, Vera. Women in the Resistance and in the Holocaust] 4. WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE IHR (INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW)? The Institute for Historical Review was founded in 1979 by Lewis Brandon, who also served as the first director. (Lewis Brandon is an alias for William David McCalden, a British neo-fascist who in 1975 had founded Britain's National Party, a break-away from the notorious neo-Nazi National Front.) The Institute for Historical Review is the moving force in the movement to deny the Holocaust. Its initial meeting was opened by Willis Carto, who also funds the organization, and whom some credit with starting it. No matter - with McCalden out of the way (he left the IHR, and has since died), the IHR is Carto's mouthpiece. Carto, born in 1926 in Indiana, had helped edit "Right" (a mid-fifties S.F. newsletter for an information clearinghouse for antisemitic activities), was, inter alia, director of the far right Congress of Freedom and, briefly, organiser for the John Birch Society, from which he was later expelled. What kind of a man, you ask, is Willis Carto? Perhaps he will answer that question himself, through these remarks: | There are 600 million Chinese and about 200 million Russians. All | united in a determination to destroy the West. And we have been so | misled that we live in a dream world - far away from reality. Hitler's | defeat was the defeat of Europe. And America. How could we have been | so blind? The blame, it seems, must be laid at the door of the | international Jews. It was their propaganda, lies and demands which | blinded the West as to what Germany was doing. --- from a letter to Norris Holt | Who is using who? Who is calling the shots? History supplies the | answer to this. History tells us plainly who our Enemy is. Our Enemy | today is the same Enemy of 50 years ago and before - and that was before | Communism. The Communists are "using" the Jews we are told ... who was | "using" the Jews fifty years ago - one hundred or one thousand years | ago. History supplies the answer. The Jews came first and remain | Public Enemy No. 1. --- a memo to himself | In fact, no objective Scholar can deny today that the world would be a | far better place to live if Germany had won - even if it had meant the | defeat of American arms! | Let us first understand who won and who lost the last war. The victors | were Soviet Russia, international Communism, Red China, Israel, | international Zionism, the international money manipulators (Wall | Street-CFR crowd) and rising colored nationalisms the world over. | Let us now name the losers: All of the European nations, most certainly | including Britain and her now non-existent Empire, the United States, White | world-hegemony and the idea of the war-preventing, world-saving philosophy | of nationalism and non-interference in the affairs of others. .......... | (Hitler and Chamberlain, incidentally, and contrary to the massive lies | told about "Munich," worked out a sensible and workable agreement at Munich | to save Europe from a war. In return for a free hand in the east, Hitler | guaranteed Chamberlain that Germany would not contest Britain's dominance | on the seas, or covet any of her colonies. The deal was broken by the | war-madness stirred up by the British press in obedience to the financial | power after Hitler marched on Poland - and also by pressure from Roosevelt.) .......... | Israel and Zionism would be unknown - still a crazy dream in the minds of | a few fanatics - and the secret international power of the Zionist | conspiracy would not be in existence nor the manifold culture distortions | which flow from this disease source into all of the western nations. .......... | Juvenile delinquency would be uncommon because the youth of America would | be filled with patriotism, the natural aftermath of defeat in war, and | there would be something to aspire to. Desegregation and the cultural | negrification of America would be unknown. .......... | What would have been the effect of a German victory inside Germany? It | is important to remember that Hitler's ambition stopped in Europe - he | would have gone no further. He would have stopped if for no other reason | that he yearned to build Germany into an architectural paradise. The | result of German victory would have brought a true internationalism of | Europe! The United Europe only dreamed of today would have been a certain | result of the war. .......... | The important thing to note is that a German victory would have assured | that the life-span of the White world would have been extended for many | centuries more than now seems likely; indeed, for the "thousand years" | promised by Hitler. --- from American Mercury, Summer 1973 By the way, the author of this last article is "E. L. Anderson, Ph.D.", which is an alias for Carto. I think the answer to the question I posed above ("What kind of man is Willis Carto?") is clear, yes? In 1955 Carto founded Liberty Lobby as a right-wing political pressure group in Washington DC, and has been running it ever since. [Ed. note: information previously carried here regarding a connection between Lyndon LaRouche and the Liberty Lobby has been removed, as I have been unable to substantiate the assertion, beyond the fact that LaRouche shares come common beliefs with Liberty Lobby. knm] The publishing arm of this and other related organisations is Noontide Press, which can boast of such titles as "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion," "The six millions reconsidered" and "Antizion." The treasurer of its holding company is Carto's wife and until 1981 its firm office manager was one Lewis Brandon. Among the speakers at the 1980 convention were the Swede Felderer, convicted and institutionalised in his country, and the French Faurisson, convicted in his country of libel and promoting racism and expelled from his University (through he still misrepresents himself as member of its faculty). One participant of the 1982 conference was Issa Nakhleh, head of the Palestine Arab Delegation, an extremist pro-PLO group originally formed by the notorious Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who broadcast from Nazi Germany to the Arabs in the Middle East. In the US, Nakhleh has associated in recent years with Western Front, an antisemitic organisation. The nature of the IHR can clearly be seen from the appication it used for its 10th. "International Revisionist Conference", part of which is reproduced here: ----------------------------- (One application good for whole family) ( ) Yes, I would like to attend the IHR's Tenth International Revisionist Conference Oct. 13th, 14th & 15th, 1990 in the Washington DC area. NAME _________________________ ADDRESS_____________________________ CITY__________________________ STATE_______ ZIP__________ TELEPHONE ____________________ ALTERNATE PHONE ____________________ Those who have not been an attendee at a previous IHR conference must complete the following section in full (in addition to the above section). If you are accepted, we will notify you in a timely manner, at which time you can make your remittance. Which, if any, of the speakers or others who you know will be attending can vouch for you? _________________________________________________________ If none, please provide at least two personal references with daytime phone numbers: _______________________________________________________________ (For the full text of the application, request ihr.applicant from The Old Frog's Alamanc.) Has anyone here ever been to a convention of any scientific, medical, historical or academic organization and been required to have someone "vouch" for you before you could attend? Clearly the IHR's interest in "open debate" isn't genuine, given their obvious reluctance to permit it at their own conventions! 5. HOW ABOUT BRADLEY SMITH - WHAT'S HIS STORY? The following comes from the Anti-Defamation League, Special Edition, February, 1992. Bradley Smith: A Man and His Myth "I get up in the morning. I go to the typewriter and write down the simplest things which have the most tremendous implications," wrote Bradley Smith in a self-published autobiography, "Confessions of a Holocaust Revisionist, Part 1." "I write all about how all the historians are wrong, how the scholars and the intellectuals and the universities are all wrong and how I'm right." That kind of bravado has sustained Smith for over a decade in his crusade to deny the facts of the Holocaust and to camouflage such non- sense as rational and intellectual inquiry. Smith claims to have stumbled upon his calling in 1979 after a stranger handed him an article by long- time Holocaust "revisionist" Dr. Robert Faurisson titled "The Problem of the Gas Chambers or, The Rumor of Auschwitz," which inspired Smith. He became convinced that he had "discovered the taboo, that for half a century has protected the Holocaust story." Smith went on to publish a Holocaust-denying newsletter called "Prima Facie," now defunct. Smith has acted in concert with the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), a pseudo-scholarly entity closely tied to Liberty Lobby. Under its founder, Willis Carto, Liberty Lobby has been the most active anti-Semitic propaganda organization in the country. Since 1979, IHR has spearheaded the movement to deny the Holocaust. Over the years Smith's association with IHR has involved him in attempts to publicize its agenda. In 1986 he managed the "IHR Radio Project," a publicity campaign to disseminate IHR propaganda through guest appearances by Holocaust "revisionists" on radio talk shows. One of Smith's original ideas for the project, a proposed debate on the authenticity of "Shoah," Claude Lanzmann's Holocaust documentary film, was rejected by every station he approached. Smith solicited interviews under the premise of discussing "Confessions of a Holocaust Revisionist." He claims to have discussed "revisionism" on over 230 radio talk shows. "C.O.D.O.H." In 1987 IHR spawned another Holocaust-denying entity, "The Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust," (CODOH); Smith and fellow "revisionist" Mark Weber were identified as the directors. (Weber was replaced in 1990 by Dr. Robert Countess, an IHR editorial board member in Huntsville, Alabama.) CODOH initially received funding from the late William Curry, an anti-Semitic Nebraska businessman. In 1988 the Missouri-based Christian News, a bi-weekly newspaper specializing in Holocaust-denial, helped organize a CODOH-sponsored effort "to promote a Holocaust debate." Hailed by Liberty Lobby's publication, The Spotlight, as "the debate of the century," this event took place in the Los Angeles area in 1989. Smith has continued to pursue CODOH's objectives. His primary tactical subterfuge, "open debate" on the Holocaust, consists of a disingenuous pursuit of "free inquiry" and First Amendment rights. In one of his irregularly self-published tracts, "Revisionist Letters," (April 1989) Smith wrote, "CODOH remains uncertain why the concept of free inquiry should be so disturbing. . ." In the same edition of the newsletter, Smith illustrated what Orwell called "doublethink": "Revisionism," Smith wrote, "demonstrates that the Holocaust story is shot through with fraud and falsehood." Smith then added "However, bigots use this information to accuse jews of lying about the Holocaust. . ." In a piece published in September 1990 in a California newspaper, the Visalia Times Delta, Smith sought to disavow anti-Semitism. "Holocaust revisionism is not an attack on Jews, but the natural urge that all men of good will have to get the history of their age into accord with the facts and to not bear false witness against others, even when they are German." In that same editorial Smith praised the discredited "Leuchter Report" as "perhaps the most significant revisionist document circulating at the moment.." [Ed. note: The author of the "Leuchter Report" provides us with another classic example of neo-nazi veracity. Fred Leuchter perjured himself before the courts in Canada by citing "consultations" and claiming to be doing business with two American prisons. When contacted directly, however, by an alert UseNetter, both wardens said they were NOT doing business with Mr. Leuchter, and never had! For the court testimony and quotes from the prison wardens, request leuchter.01 from The Old Frog's Almanac - I'll send it to you right away. knm] Mr. Smith Goes To College Smith's early attempts to funnel "revisionism" into academia received little notice. Smith's more recent campus outreach, however, has received more attention. Attempting to disguise itself as a vehicle for scholarly inquiry, his current advertisement acknowledges that the Nazis "singled out the Jewish people for special and cruel treatment." However, the ad contends, that occurred because Jews were viewed as "enemies of the State" and "an influential force behind international communism." Jews who died in work camps, the ad maintains, did so of typhus and other diseases. The gas chambers were only used as "lifesaving" fumigation chambers to delouse clothing and prevent disease. "The figure of 6 million Jewish deaths" the ad asserts "is an irresponsible exaggeration." As of this writing five campus papers have published Smith's ad, while twelve have refused it outright, and two published it with editorial commentary. Smith has accused those newspapers who refused to publish the ad of capitulating to organized Jewry's conspiracy to suppress "revisionism." After The Cornell Daily Sun and the Michigan Daily ran the advertisement, protest rallies were organized. The Daily Northwestern's decision to run Smith's paid notice sparked sharp debate, in part because of Arthur Butz's presence on campus. (Butz, on the faculty of Northwestern's engineering department wrote a Holocaust "revisionist" book with the self-explanatory title "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century". The book has become a mainstay of hate group booklists.) One hundred seventy-five professors and students responded to Smith's propaganda with an advertisment of their own denouncing Holocaust "revisionism" (and Butz's book) as malicious. After the Smith ad ran in Duke University's campus newspaper, The Chronicle, the paper's editor justified that decision by asserting that the material presented information within the bounds of legitimate historical revisionism. However members of Duke's History Department rebutted this claim with a unaninimously endorsed statement distinguishing between interpreting history and denying it altogether. "The Chronicle editors make a serious error" read the faculty statement "when they confuse Holocaust deniers with historical revisionists. Whatever one thinks about the right of The Chronicle to accept this advertisement as historians, we deplore this effort to use the language of 'scholarship' to distort and obliterate an event which to our everlasting shame did occur. We urge all members of the Duke community to treat such advertisements with the contempt they deserve." (The full text of the advertisement placed by the history faculty at Duke is available on request from The Old Frog's Almanac - send your request to listserv@oneb.almanac.bc.ca and include the command 'get holocaust duke.history' as your message text.) (It should be noted that First Amendment guarantees of free speech and freedom of the press in no way obligate newspapers to accept every ad or other item submitted for publication.) The Daily Targum of Rutgers University elected to treat CODOH's advertisement as an "expose," with rebuttals; a similar approach prevailed at The Lantern at Ohio State. Campus newspapers that decided against publishing Smith's ad included those at Harvard, Yale, the University of Texas (Austin) and the University of California (Berkeley). Seeing Conspiracies, Telling Lies Smith has insisted that the "Holocaust myth" was created by Soviet and U.S. forces to justify their own wartime actions. He has also asserted "Jewish organizations get up in arms over this because the Holocaust story has become a secular religion for some parts of the Jewish community." To reinforce the point Smith noted: "Influential pressure groups with private agendas have made the Holocaust an exception to open debate." The Anti-Defamation League was designated as one of those groups; Smith described ADL as "a private Jewish intelligence agency which operates along the lines of the KGB." Perhaps Smith himself has made the best case against his own propaganda. A promotional piece for "Confessions of a Holocaust Revisionist (Part I)" asserts: "The primary interest of the author is not what happened in Europe 45 years ago, but in how history and historic lies affect the lives of individuals living today." Bradley Smith's version of "history" can only "affect the lives of individuals" in the direction of ignorance and anti-Semitism. Followup to alt.revisionism ************************************************************************** === The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada === Public Access UseNet for Central Vancouver Island, via SCO XENIX 2.3.2 GT ************************************************************************** -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Printed information about Holocaust denial sought - please mail to: The Old Frog's Almanac, C/O R.R. 1, C-28, Ladysmith, B.C. Canada V0R 2E0 The Old Frog's Almanac - Public Access Usenet for Central Vancouver Island -- The Old Frog's Almanac - Public Access UseNet for Central Vancouver Island (604) 245-3205 (v32) (604) 245-4366 (2400x4) Waffle XENIX 1.64 Ladysmith, British Columbia, CANADA. Just south of Tupperware Central... (Sssssssh.... Hard disk dying...)