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- From: vnoronha@dagwood.intel.com (Valerie Noronha)
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- Subject: Re: raising children
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- Date: 23 Nov 92 19:19:05 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov23.154849.17001@ttinews.tti.com>, reid@metis.tti.com
- (Reid Kneeland) writes:
- |>
- |> What about people who don't have the time or money to take these
- |> "approved" courses? They can't get married? And "approved" by whom?
- |> What will be the "correct" curriculum? Who gets to decide what a
- |> "correct" relationship is? What "correct" parenting is? I suggest
- |> that these are best decided by the people involved, and not the
- |> government. You know, freedom, that silly old concept?
-
- I agree with Reid's point concerning the problems of making marriage courses
- manditory. I think a *course* is not quite the correct term. It implies
- the handing down of instruction by *experts* and a pass/fail if you don't
- meet someone else's guidelines when the only real pass/fail is between the
- husband and wife. I think we can all think of some couples who get along
- great but whoses marital/house rules we find completely unacceptable for us.
- Just think of some of the recent disputes on the net.
-
- Premarital *preparation* on the other hand can be extremely beneficial. In
- my church (R.C.) we had the option to take either a discussion series or
- attend an Engaged Encounter weekend. During the weekend, several different
- topics were presented to us, basically ranging from sharing who we are as
- individuals, our relationships with others (family, friends, church, etc.),
- and our relationship as a couple. Older married couples volunteered to share
- their stories and then we were given a period where we would all separate
- and write in a journal (either responding to one of a series of discussion
- questions or picking a related topic we wished to explore). After this
- we would exchange our journal with our fiance/e and discuss privately what
- we had written (just the two of us). The format of writing separately was
- so that each person had an opportuntity to think it out on his/her own
- without tailoring the response to what we thought the other person might
- want to hear of just agreeing so as not to spark disagreement. This allows
- the more reticent person to also express his/her views and the poor listener
- a chance to read instead of talk.
-
- The focus was on the couple and creating an environment where the couple
- would discuss important issues relating to that relationship. The facilitators
- did not participate in the couple's discussions at all, but were available
- if a couple should want an outside opinion on a thorny issue. No outsider,
- not the priest who later married us or anyone, ever knew what we had discussed
- or even if we used that time to explore deeper into our dreams, goals, and
- inner selves. They just required us to attend. As in most things, what we
- got out of it was what we put into it.
-
- Valerie Noronha
-