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- From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
- Newsgroups: alt.peeves
- Subject: Re: Take up a hobby, instead
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.010222.20405@igor.tamri.com>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 01:02:22 GMT
- References: <1992Nov15.075815.4198@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <BxvwxF.EM1@vcd.hp.com> <17958@autodesk.COM>
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- In article <17958@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
- [stuff deleted to save bandwidth]
- >Peeve: Some very nice men are shy. They don't ask women out because
- >they are shy. Then they wonder why they don't have girlfriends.
- >
- >Peeve: Some very boorish men are so insistent that you either have
- >to club them with a MagLite or go out with them and act like a total
- >dweeb to get them off your case.
-
- Unfortunately, remembering back to my early single days, the onus was
- always on me to make exactly the right moves at the right time. As I was
- a shy geek at the time, I usually erred on the side of non-aggressiveness.
- At the time, I found that that approach put me in the same category as
- the slobs, i.e., out of the picture. Gradually, I learned how to be
- aggressive about it in the right way but the women who'd give me a
- shot (if I didn't make all the right moves at the right time) were
- few and far between.
-
- I'm not saying this to whine, just to let you know that there's another
- side to the story.
-
- >Women are less likely to indulge in this kind of destructive and
- > self-destructive behavior and are less likely to be the
- > topic of such discussions.
- >Men don't care as long as they "get some".
- >Women care a lot more about how their partners behave than men do.
- >Men don't want to think about it, as long as they "get some".
-
- Elaine, surely you're too intelligent to really BELIEVE in such a
- simplistic explanation. I mean, the idea that men are only out to
- "get it" is about as on-target and thoughtful as my saying that
- women are only out to find someone with Ross Perot's bank account
- to take care of them: reality content, minimal. Certainly there
- are people like that but it's nowhere near 100% so I can't figure
- out why you'd say something as obviously wrong as "men don't care
- as long as they get some". No hostility intended, I just don't
- understand it.
-
- >Its the law of averages. Some sage from years ago said that a good
- >man is hard to find, but a good woman is too easy to find. Since
- >women cannot figure out how to turn themselves into dykes or tolerate
- >living in a good man's harem, they have to make do with what they have.
-
- Depends on how you want your life to be when you look back at it.
- Personally, I decided to set my sights high, bide my time and find
- THE right person to go through life with, die old and alone if that's
- what it took to build the kind of life I wanted. It wasn't easy, it
- took a long time but it worked. If I'd taken the easy way out and just
- settled for anybody, I would've deserved what I got.
-
- Just a few comments from a survivor of the battle of the sexes.
-
- don
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