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- From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
- Subject: Re: Prove That Kids are Precious Gifts From God. (Was: Re: ra-ising c-hildren)
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:33:04 GMT
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- In article <thurlow.722464088@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
- >>I repeat and add, before Lubosh can say that kids are precious
- >>gifts from God, he has to prove God exists and that God says that kids are
- >>precious gifts from HIM/HER in a scientifically verifiable way.
- >Why? Who's the anal-retentive person who's going to insist on proving
- >something like that in a "scientifically verifiable way"? And what's
- >going to happen to him if he doesn't?
- >You need to learn that there are many things you will come to believe
- >as truth which you won't have the time/knowledge/resources to _prove_
- >to someone who hasn't been down your road. Some truths aren't even
- >provable.
-
- You're missing something here.
-
- "children are precious" and "children are precious gifts from God" are not the
- same thing. Despite some of the nitpicking I've seen, the real dispute is over
- the place where those two claims differ.
-
- "children are precious" doesn't need to be proven. As you noted, it would be
- ridiculous to ask for any sort of verifiable proof of such a thing.
-
- "children are precious gifts from God" has an extra clause tacked on the end.
- You're trying to fudge around having to prove that extra part by appealing to
- the lack of a need to prove the first part.
- --
- "the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
- the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
- disposed of." -- K. Eric Drexler
-
- Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
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