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- From: casspa@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Paul Cass)
- Subject: Re: Who are we kidding?
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- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:23:43 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov20.060227.29534@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
- >
- > No cheap shot, Paul. There's no difference between Janis's
- >childish post and any other end-of-the-world junk I've seen. I thought
- >about a serious reply to her article, but there was no point - nothing
- >to reply to. She's stared into her navel, decided there's 30 years
- >left, and her personal response is to dig a hole, climb in, and pull
- >the hole in after her, but without even the dignity of resignation. No,
- >she wants to put on Jeremiah's robes and throw curses. How is she
- >different from any other deranged prophet of apocalypse?
-
- I have been deeply involved in environmental issues and ethics for the
- las six or seven years and so I was well acquainted with Janice's
- state of mind when I read her post.
-
- It is easy to get there...the sequence goes someting like this; as you
- delve into the problems concerning eco-systems.
- -hmmmmm- geez! - On no - good grief -Why do we do that? - and so on.
- Somewhere along the line you begin noticing economist types saying things
- like "don't worry, be happy etc."
-
- Back to the research were you find the usually reticent scientific
- community saying the most alarming things. Then one night while
- pondering stacks of research paper, the synergistic effects hit you.
- It is a little like the famous "runners wall". Depression is not
- really the word - despair is more like it. For me it came when I was
- reading a report on the effect of ozone depletion on phytoplankton.
- If it doesn't dawn on you that degradation on a global scale is at
- least possible then you likely have not been paying attention. Not
- necessarily apt to happen...but it is possible. Which brings me to
- another issue.
-
- In another article in this thread posted by Bill White he made the
- comment that collapse would not happen immediately, that there would
- be a long deteroriation of the environment. Maybe true, but, that is
- not the way eco-systems behave in general. (ref. E.O.Wilson) Eco-systems
- have a tendency to collapse suddenly - literally overnight. You may
- remember the old saw about the airplane flying along while the passengers
- removed bolts? It flies along just fine despite bosing parts until
- a critical juncture is reached.
-
- In recent years there has been a growing awareness that humanity is
- degrading the environment at an ever increasing rate; that Mother has
- cancer and we continue to contribute to the disease. That we acknowledge
- that there just might be a problem is nice. That we adamently refuse to
- change our behavior is suiscidal.
-
- As to any problems between you and Janice - I have not been aware of
- them. In any case a trite and flippant response did not seem appropriate
- to someone who is expressing their feelings on a matter of great concern
- to them. Hell..I wouldn't even kick Pat Robertson when he is down...
- well...let me think about that.
-
- Whether or not I am worth talking to, you and others on alt.pagan will
- have to make up your own minds.
- Maiden Bless
- Paul
- >
- >
- >
- > You I don't know. We'll see if you're worth talking to.
- >
- >- Nothing fails like success - Kenn Barry
- >----------------------------------------------------------------
- >ELECTRIC AVENUE: barry@netcom.com
-
- and Paul again.....
-
- there are no doubt spelling and grammer errors above...I would be
- willing to correct them if I could ever get vi to operate as a
- sane word processor.
-
- --
- * * * * * * *
- "It is possible to join forces, to identify common goals, and to agree on
- common action." - U.N. World Commission on Development and Environment
- casspa@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
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