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- From: traite@eros.harvard.edu (Shirley Traite)
- Newsgroups: alt.pagan
- Subject: Re: Mikey
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- Date: 19 Nov 92 22:16:01 GMT
- References: <1992Nov16.202843.22410@u.washington.edu> <00963C1F.44802560@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> <BxyuI3.G7I@encore.com>
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- In article <BxyuI3.G7I@encore.com> aaldrich@encore.com (Al Aldrich) writes:
- >
- >I don't know about giving advice. I can tell you what we have done.
- >We started by having ritual circles at home with just us and the kids.
- >We would get them to gather up symbols for earth/air/fire/water and place
- >them in appropriate places in the circle and then invoke `the great spirit'
- >thanking hir for our wonderful family and good luck in having each other
- >and food and shelter. Then we would each say something we liked about
- >one of the natural elements. Then we would just sit quietly holding hands
- >for about 2 minutes ( all you can expect from kids 5 and 7 ) and close
- >the circle. The kids take turns blowing out the candles.
- >We called our ritual `quiet time'.
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- >So if they were asked in school about it, or with their friends, they
- >would say we `talked to the great spirit' or `we had quiet time'.
- >We had the same concerns about the using the words pagan and wiccan out
- >of context and having social services or whoever showing up at our door.
- >So we thought, until they get older, we can teach the morals that we
- >believe in and involve them in ritual to a certain degree, but until they
- >are old enough to speak intelligently about paganism, we felt it would
- >be `safer' to use less inflammatory terminology. It's probably a bit of
- >a cop out, but the witch hunters are out there and some of them would have
- >no qualms at all about hurting or abducting our children if they were to
- >talk about who we really are. They have heard us say that we are pagan
- >but I don't think they really understand what that means.
- >So for now, we sort of lay low about who we are. We do let them know how
- >we feel about issues and hate mongers and so they know what we believe
- >in. We just try to keep away from encouraging them to put a label on it
- >at this point.
- >
- >Does that help?
- >
- >Blessings
- >al
- >
- >--
- >Al Aldrich inet:aaldrich@encore.com
- >"..if you understood everything I said, you'd be me." miles davis
- >----------------------------------------------------------------------
- >MY opinions are not to be construed as those of my employer.
-
-
- I Think I must be really in the minority on this because I get
- lots of raised eyebrows both within and outside the pagan/wiccan
- community.
-
- I have an almost two year old which I plan to *NOT* raise
- in any faith, but rather, help her to explore as many faiths
- as possible before she chooses or does not choose a particular
- path. (I guess this is a by-product of my own Unitarian upbringing. :) )
- I found Paganism after a long search. It's right for
- *ME* but is it right for my child? I don't plan to hide
- my beliefs from her but I won't include her in rituals
- until she understands to some degree what those rituals are about
- and why I am doing them.
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- (Al, please don't take this as a criticism of what you are doing.)
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- In some ways I guess I a humanist. I think that it is possible
- to teach moral and ethical behavior /values outside of religion. That
- doesn't mean that I don't think religion is important. I just
- think that one should understand what your doing and that includes
- studying other religions. I have a big problem with the "blind faith" .
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- That's what I am doing. I'm sure there are lots of people who
- disagree.
-
- Blessings to you!
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- Shirley Traite (traite@sdac.harvard.edu) |I only speak for myself.
- Statistical Programmer |
- SDAC/Biostatistics Dept. |
- Harvard Sch. of Public Health |
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