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- Subject: Re: OOBE or just vivid imagination
- From: dkarma@netlink.cts.com (Druta Karma)
- Message-ID: <NBiiuB1w165w@netlink.cts.com>
- References: <1992Nov18.014935.27909@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:38:58 PST
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- peterf@ariel.yorku.ca (Peter Forth) writes:
-
- > Basically I percieve two sides to the argument:
- >
- > 1) OOBE's are imaginary. That is to say an OOBE consists of reordering and
- > replaying old memories in a creative, vivid, coeherant fashion. The entire
- > experience consists of either old sensory "input" (memories), variations on t
- >
- > 2) OOBE's provide a method outside the usual 5 senses to obtain new, current
- > input from ones surroundings. Whether anything actually leaves the body is
- > debatable but really beside the point.
- >
- > I currently support the first of the two options but would very much like to
- > be persuaded into supporting the second. This is not however necessarily
-
- I would check out Michael Sabom's book titled Recollections of Death: A
- Medical Investigation. Sabom, who was a cardiologist at the Emory
- University Medical Center at the time he did his study, investigated
- cardiac arrest patients who reported OOBEs. He did a very careful study,
- using a control group of patients who did not report OOBEs. He found that
- the control group subjects were not able to describe their resusitation
- procedures, while a statistically significant number of the OOBE patients
- were able to describe details of the specific procedures they underwent,
- even though they should have been totally unconscious at the time. In his
- book, Sabom goes through a great deal of trouble to deal with all the
- usual kinds of objections and counterarguments. If Sabom is correct, then
- your option number 2 is a distinct possibility.
-
- Druta Karma
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