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- From: Tarzan
- Subject: Re: OOBE or just vivid imagination
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.191943.6289@nrtpa038.bnr.ca>
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- Organization: Bell-Northern Research
- References: <1992Nov6.055629.21882@gnosys.svle.ma.us> <1992Nov6.214534.6660@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <1992Nov8.073403.4318@gnosys.svle.ma.us> <BxJ03J.Cqx@cs.psu.edu> <1992Nov12.201733.22296@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:19:43 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov12.201733.22296@m.cs.uiuc.edu> mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert
- McGrath) writes:
- >|> In article <1992Nov09.191818.23121@news.mentorg.com>
- garyk@garyk.mentorg.com
- >|> (Gary Kaminski) writes:
- >|> > In article <1992Nov8.073403.4318@gnosys.svle.ma.us>,
- gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
- >|> (Gary S. Trujillo) writes:
- >|>
- >|> >> What do others feel on this...
-
-
- .....much! deleted. .................
-
- How can
- >you justify rejecting ideas that you haven't even tried to understand?
- >This sounds like pure bigotry to me.
- >
- >--
- > Robert E. McGrath
- > Urbana Illinois
- > mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
- >
- >
- > Robert I hate to say this because I am trying to do better on the net but I
- would like to point out that you seem to neglect all the positive evidence for
- OOBE's (of which I can't quote any right now, you're much better at quoting
- sources) and tend to play the devil's advocate. This can be good but you tend
- to 'label' others ideas and word of mouth evidence as bunk. This is fine and
- all but it can be very agressive sounding.
-
- "It is not "denigrating"
- to examine subjective experiences from points of view other than
- absolute, naive, trust."
-
- You're right but it honestly seems that you view most opinions and posts as
- coming from people who believe 100 percent with out question in OOB phenomenon
- as a way of life. And that these people use no judgement in their lives. Most
- are just presenting what they have experienced thus far in this life and are
- searching for constructive criticism or comments as to what they have
- presented. We need to keep open minds and hearts or a lot of people will leave
- this group in search of other support groups.
-
-
-
- This is your position. Try not to impose it on others.""
-
- An example; The above person was not trying to impose their view. Merely
- stating what they believe. Your response sounded agressive and unfriendly.
- Not to say that you meant it that way.
-
-
- > Is
- >your world view threatened by the fact that scientific evidence
- >doesn't quite agree with all of your imaginings?
-
-
-
- Robert, imaginings? Do you see what I mean? Please do not take this
- offensively because I did not mean it that way. Let's work hard toward
- positive constructive attitudes toward each others ramblings. It helps. Maybe
- we'll get somewhere. Tonight I am going to write a letter to the Monroe Inst.
-
- Tarzan.
-
-
-