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- From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
- Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body
- Subject: Re: reading / FAQ projects (was Re: Silver cord)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.232040.12005@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 23:20:40 GMT
- References: <hawleylm-111192170558@hawley.apple.com> <1992Nov13.170729.8639@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <1992Nov15.024008.22902@gnosys.svle.ma.us>
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- In article <1992Nov15.024008.22902@gnosys.svle.ma.us>, gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo) writes in part:
- |> In <1992Nov13.170729.8639@m.cs.uiuc.edu> mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
- |> (Robert McGrath) writes:
- |>
- |> > In article <hawleylm-111192170558@hawley.apple.com>, hawleylm@apple.com
- |> (Lorin Hawley) writes in part:
- |>
- |> >> ...Moody and Morse (and Kubler-Ross) ... have been swayed to the belief that
- |> >> there is a "something" that leaves the body and survives physical death.
- |>
- |> > A very nice phrasing. They have been "swayed to the belief". This
- |> > is not a "scientific" position. It is perfectly reasonable for
- |> > "scientists" to have and express convictions, but their convictions
- |> > are no more "valid" than anyone else's unless it is backed by
- |> > "scientific" argument.
- |>
- |> Rather than continuing this "yes-no" kind of discussion, I suggest that we
- |> undertake to actually read what the above-cited authors have actually
- |> written, and how they support whatever views they currently hold.
- [...]
- |> Really, folks - why can't those of us who are interested just go out and
- |> spend some time actually reading what these people have to say, so we can
- |> have an informed discussion, rather than just exchanging personal opinion,
- |> laced with slurs on one another and our gullibility or enslavement to some
- |> outmoded scientific paradigm?
-
- Hmm. I thought LH and I were discussing something we had read and were
- informed about. And I didn't notice any slurs in anything either one of
- us said. Not until someone decided to wave around words like "gullibility",
- "enslavement" and "outmoded scientific paradigm". Maybe you could just
- butt-out of this conversation, GST, LH and I were proceeding just fine
- without you telling us how to conduct our conversation.
-
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- Robert E. McGrath
- Urbana Illinois
- mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
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