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- From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
- Subject: Re: Questions ...
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.163025.28900@shearson.com>
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- Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
- Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
- References: <BxtBpu.1C8@ddsw1.mcs.com>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:30:25 GMT
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- In article 1C8@ddsw1.mcs.com, eshin@ddsw1.mcs.com (Eshin-Fun) writes:
- > >>firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:
- > :
- > : 1) What exactly is the myth of the phoenix?<<
- >
- >
- > The most popular is found in Ancient Greek myth in the story of Oedipus Rex.
- >
- > There the Phoenix asks a riddle:
- > "What is it, that has four legs in the morning, two at noon and three in the
- > evening; and it is weakest when it has most legs?"
- >
- > For those that did not answer it, she devoured them or destroyed them; until
- > Oedipus comes along and answers the riddle. The Phoenix, sometimes called
- > sphinx, then plunges headlong off the cliff and kills itself leaving Oedipus
- > to become king.
- >
- > Thye Phoenix has another tradition that says:
- >
- > The phoenix is a wonderous bird that spends its life building its nest. Only
- > upon its completion to set it afire, and therefore consume itself in the
- > flames.
- > But out of its ashes, it will be observed te pheonix rises once again,
- > better, and more beautiful than it was before. Only to once more rebuild its
- > nest destined to go through the confliguration once more.
- >
- > There are many more stories of the phoenix, in Greece, Egypt etc. but most
- > of all in China where the phoenix was considered the symbol of the Empress
- > in balance to the dragon which symbolized the Emperor.
- >
- >
- > >>:
- > >>: 2) What is the story of Lucifer being cast out of heaven?<<
- >
- >
- > The popularity of this episode is made famous by Milton's work "Paradise
- > Lost" in which he enumarates thye great conflict between light and darkness.
- >
- > Unfortunately this is not an original theological premise of neither the
- > Jews or Christians as it is part of the Ancient Persian Religion.
- >
- > In ancient Persian myth there are two forces. One of darkness (Arihman) and
- > one of light (Ahura Mazda). These get into conflict and are ever in conflict
- > with each others supremacy. It is too long to get into here.
- > I suggest you read on Mithraism, Zoroaster etc. to get complete details. It
- > is quite beautiful.
- >
- > Observe that not only did Christendom borrow this myth but also the
- > vestments of the Persian clergy which is not unsimilar to what today
- > cardinals sport as their outfits.
- >
- > Eshin-Fun
- >
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- sorry Eshin but phoenix is a far cry from the sphynx.
- the second part is right but as for the riddle .. tell me the book u read it in.
-
- ---
- Steve C.
-
- ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
- - Just fools who think they are.
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- I understand you need someone to do work.
- I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
- -Vladimir Taltos
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