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- From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.181806.29629@pmafire.inel.gov>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:18:06 GMT
- Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
- Subject: Re: Penn & Teller & Exposure.
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- References: <1992Nov14.130828.24894@news.acns.nwu.edu> <BARNETT.92Nov16092353@grymoire.crd.ge.com> <1992Nov16.155609.8132@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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- mjamroz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Margaret Jamroz) writes:
- >Okay. P&T write in their book:
- >
- >"...If you want credit for being clever, you should proably not tell. Good
- >tricks usually have dopey, unimpressive explanations..."
-
- Agreed. Like has been discussed in the other thread about the
- disappoint of most people when they learn the ``secret.''
-
- >"...If you teach a trick, go all the way. Make sure your friend actually
- >learns to do it. Rehearse until she/he does the trick well. There are
- >already more than enough incompetent magicians without your adding to the
- >problem."
- >
- >"...if you prefer to hoard your secrets and impede the advacement of Humankind
- >though knowledge, that's your right."
-
- Penn & Teller are always held up as the ultimate example of ``Open''
- magic, but I don't think they're talking here about posting secrets to
- the net -- they're talking about *teaching* someone else magic. This is
- entirely different, IMHO.
-
- >And on the subject of what to do when a person keeps bugging you about how an
- >effect was done:
- >
- >"If they still hound you, pretend to give in. Take the curious person into a
- >quiet corner. Bring your lips to his or her ear. Then scream at the top of
- >your lungs, "IT'S A TRICK!!!!"
-
- But if someone on the net does this, they get flamed to a crisp. Often
- by the people upholding Penn & Teller as an example of the sort of kind
- souls we all ought to be in revealing secrets. Go figure.
-
- Geoff
-
- --
- Geoff Allen \ Computers are useless.
- uunet!pmafire!geoff \ They can only give you answers.
- geoff@pmafire.inel.gov \ -- Pablo Picasso
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