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- From: gumby@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (David Brian Gumminger)
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- Subject: Re: Penn & Teller & Exposure.
- Date: 16 Nov 1992 08:55:00 -0600
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- In article <1992Nov13.170215.4072@memstvx1.memst.edu> gouldh@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
- >I keep hearing how Penn and Teller expose magic effects. Its interesting
- >that if its so great to do that Teller has not to my knowledge exposed his
- >rose routine.
- >
- >
- > H. Gould
-
-
- In actuallity, I can only think of two things Penn and Teller perform where
- they "give away" a secret. The first is the handstab. They show some palming
- and talk a little about false cuts and false shuffles. The second is the
- "visible illusion" on their current program. This is a variation on the
- Mis-made lady idea except they use see-thru boxes.
-
- What follows here is my opinion of these two tricks. The handstab is not
- an intentional "giving away" or exposing of any magical effect. It is an
- attempt (and a good one) at getting laughs from the audience and at the
- same time urging them not to take a magicians word when he/she tells you
- that your card has been "lost in the deck." There are other sleights they use
- to get this trick to work and those they DO NOT expose. It's almost as if
- the exposing is a form of misdirection. They tell you how to do it, so the
- audience watches for it allowing them to pull something else right in front
- of your face. Not a bad idea actually.
-
- The visible illusion, as they state in their performances, was created as a
- "tribute" to all those people who got so peeved at the "exposure" in the
- handstab. The illusion is performed initially in opaque boxes and later
- with the see-thru boxes. Even watching the opaque version, I think most
- people can figure this one out. It is sooo obvious. The see-thru version
- just confirms your suspicions. The result looks to me to be a two part
- statement to the magical community. First, give the audience a little
- credit, they aren't as stupid as you might think. How can you expose an
- illusion that the audience can figure out with ease? Second, lighten up
- a little. No one will go hungry or be unable to feed their family because
- you show people you can palm a card.
-
- Notice they never give away their best effects, nor do they give away the
- effects that someone else is currently performing. Are they exposing magic?
- I don't think so. Rather, I'd say they are exposing people TO magic. Theres
- a big difference.
-
- Dave
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- David B. Gumminger
- Kansas State University
- gumby@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
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