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- From: J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
- Subject: Re: Discouragement from Locksmiths
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:42:33 GMT
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- yabi@ellis.uchicago.edu (Scott Thomas Yabiku) writes in
- Message-ID: <yabi.12.722112997@ellis.uchicago.edu>
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- >(Steve, if you could please forward this to Chris W.)
- >Chris W.,
- > Don't you be telling me what I can and cannot do. I've often read that
- >locksmiths discourage people from learning to pick locks. They want to
- >keep their trade skills secret, so they can charge people crazy amounts
- >of money, like $50, to open a lock. That's wrong. I find locksmithing to
- >be very interesting, and I freely help others learn what I know.
-
- I owned a locksmith shop for 13 years and I wouldn't dare disclose to
- the general public how to compromise a random lock. I was in business
- to provide physical security, lock picking was only secondary and only
- made up about 7% of our income. If word got out that I was telling any
- Tom, Dick or Harriet (equal opportunity here boys) how to pick locks
- how long do you think I'd be in business. Who'd want to deal with me.
- On the other hand, when I needed an apprentice, I hired 'em (with
- full knowledge I was hiring my future competitor) and trained 'em. So
- I guess I don't fit the mould you illustrate above, as don't other
- professional type locksmiths. So, teaching you to pick locks so you
- won't pay me a $50 picking fee is really irrevelant. I wouldn't teach
- you how to pick a lock because I owe a certain feduciary responsibility
- to my customers to provide a certain degree of security. Imagine,
- here I am, I just got done securing your home, then I give the keys to
- a total stranger. This is what your claim equates to.
-
- > I'm not a criminal. I've never used my locksmithing skills to steal
- >anything. Possession of picks is a crime? Big deal. I, as do many
- >people, feel that my government has no right to tell me what I can't own
- >for my personal use (ie, handguns, RSA encryption, lockpicks...).
- >[end]
- >Has anyone else ever been told by a locksmith to "butt out" of his
- >profession? I'd be interested to hear about it.
-
- In most states, possession alone does not constitute a crime. Use of
- 'burglar' tools to gain unauthorized entry to someone elses property
- does. Has anyone tried to exclude me from practicing locksmithing? Nope.
-
- If you really want to learn about some of this stuff, write Paladin Press
- in Colorado. They have a book on lock picking. Get a subscription to
- Locksmith Ledger, join the Associated Locksmiths Association and attend
- the local meetings. Find a locksmithing school in your local area, or
- try one of the correspondence courses. The absolute best advise I can
- give you is to find a locksmith that will hire you as an apprentice (they
- do, no matter what anyone has told you). But walk into a locksmith shop
- and ask how to pick locks? I applaud any locksmith that shows you the
- door.
-
- >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >Have a nice day! :)
-
- Thank you.
-