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- Organization: Penn State University
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:20:34 EST
- From: <CCS105@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Message-ID: <92325.102034CCS105@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
- Subject: Re: Reasoning with homophobes?? (was: Re: Reasoning of homos???
- References: <1992Nov16.174635.16304@netcom.com>
- <1992Nov16.191127.5469@samba.oit.unc.edu> <1e9oo5INN3io@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
- <1992Nov20.030810.2716@udel.edu>
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- Yes, it's time once again to write another great/or stupid post. It is a
- yearly ritual..joy..
- "I think John has a good point."
-
- I could leave it at that...but of course, that is not my way..
- From the title i would suggest talking to them like anyone else would.
- Most people have hidden sexaul desires. Some follow these desires through.
- Enough said. Anyone who responds to childish comments should be treated as
- a child.
- It also comes to my attention, that you are grouping a bunch of people
- together using the word homophobe, of which I belong to... It has been my
- point, for a year or so, that homosexuals will not gain acceptance, or for
- that matter, any oppressed group, will not gain acceptance if it does not
- become an integrated member of society..in other words, not set apart as
- some group...but to belong into society as a whole. However, a group, i guess,
- is needed to ensure this taking place, however, if the group doesn't go away...
- i don't think you get anywhere...but yet the group is needed, hence you get
- a circle...
-
- What else..hmm... *fuzzy ponders*
-
- oh, a story, of course...
-
- Last night, around 12:30, i was trying to sleep off a few beers...and i
- get this phone call...asking me to join some gay club...i thought it was
- humorous, cause the person on the other end thought i believed him...
- After checking around, i find that this is a common occurance, done all
- in a joke...
-
- I find it interesting..I think if I was gay, (trust me i'm not) i would
- feel ashamed to be gay. This probably comes from society..as well as
- integrated belief..so my question this year, in my current study and
- examination of belief stuctures...which will never get done...is....
- (drum role.....)
- 1. Do homosexuals feel ashamed to be gay, and why in your opinion do you
- feel ashamed..and if you don't feel aahamed...do you have a pumped
- up ego about the whole thing...do you go around saying i'm proud to be gay.
- or do you just accept it as a fact of life and go on.
-
-
- 2. It was told to me that bisexuals in these "clubs" were shunned more or less
- In other words, you gotta be one or the other. Do you think this stems from
- the need to try and seperate the two groups...
-
-
- ok, enough...no..one last one
- 3. I recently considered creating a alt.per.homosexual, to basically try and
- make the board work better. Those who do not like to see homosexual ads
- or arguments just leave..makeing the board inefficient. I did not write this
- here for you to make petty assumptions..so don't do it...My question is...
- "what is the correct term for homosexuals. one person wrote to me and
- asked me how i could do this . I said it was very easy, the same way
- you can use the word homophobe, or heterosexual...I do not get upset when
- someone calls me straight or heterosexual,...so what is the correct term.
- I stick with homosexual. It what the boards are called anyway...no one
- seems to be able to give me an answer.
-
- OK...in response to the above...how to respond...follow smitty's 3 easy steps.
-
- 1. say anything you wish, disagree with me, it helps me to learn more, or to
- prove that i am right.
-
- 2. If you feel mad, pissed off, etc after reading this post, don't respond,
- because you are weak minded. I don't do flames..which is a shame..oh well
-
- 3. If you are a level headed person, i would gladly respond..by email..or
- if you think your point merrits everyones attention, post it.. Send me the
- flames if you wish be email..but geez, don't start a flame war..it serves
- no purpose. Agian, please feel free to agree of disagree with the above.
- But write in a decent manner.
- thanks, later, gersha,
- smitty.
-