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- From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
- Newsgroups: alt.flame
- Subject: Re: Why Clinton
- Message-ID: <1455@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 16:56:25 GMT
- References: <1992Nov18.032129.1@acad.drake.edu>
- Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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- vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
- : In article <1449@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:
- :
- : > 1) If George Bush was not suggesting that atheists are in some way
- : > inferior U.S. citizens, and perhaps should not be considered
- : > citizens at all, then WHAT WAS he saying? What sort of code was he
- : > using?
- :
- : Well at least you are asking questions, which allows us to show you your own
- : ignorance. "What was he saying" It appears to me that President Bush did not
- : know how he felt about Atheists. He clearly believes that the United States is
- : a religiously minded nation, lo and behold he is correct. He also firmly stated
- : that he was for the seperation of Church and State, believing that the majority
- : of Americans did as well, lo and behold they do. Hmm. If the majority of the
- : United States professes a belief in God, and yet there must exist a seperation
- : of this religion, well then, it seems to be a reasonable question to ask "what
- : then are atheists?" It is the sort of acedemic reasoning that plagues our
- : highest tribunal "When does life start..." etc. The President seems to have
- : remained very consistant with the rest of acedemic government in his
- : ponderings.
- :
- No, no- he wasn't asking "What then are atheists," and he wasn't
- discussing how he, personally, felt about atheists. He was
- stating, as president of the United States, that atheists were not
- patriots and that he wasn't certain they should be citizens.
- Considering that even the most restrictive interpretation of the
- First Amendment would have to concede that it forbids *ANY*
- religious test for citizenship, this seems a very odd thing indeed
- for the man entrusted with the defense of the constitution to be
- saying.
-
- The answer to your question is: Atheists are people who don't
- believe in God. This has no implications for their citizenship,
- their patriotism, or their honorable character.
- :
- : > Please either answer these questions or shutup and stop annoying
- : > people with your young-republican inanities.
- :
- : I find it very strange that you use this. Now, to shift the burden of proof,
- : can you Billy Boy, without mindlessly insulting the President, intelligently
- : prove the substance of your arguement? To coin a Court phrase "the literary or
- : artistic merit to society" that your point may have. I ask you to consider it in
- : this remonstration: Bush has lost, so... what is your point? Anything that he
- : has said about miniscule details regarding his own convictions, in light of the
- : election, are now moot. You have made an interesting accousation, now can you
- : swallow your own pill? (I suspect you swallow quite well)
- :
- What pill am I supposed to be swallowing, Ghost Boy? I've made my
- point repeatedly, only to have you and Willy consistently evade it.
- I'm not sure what *you're* point is about Georgie being out of
- office; do you feel that the events of the past four years are now
- closed to discussion? Then why are you discussing them?
-
- Bill
-