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- Subject: Re: Madison music
- Message-ID: <92325.130158MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
- From: <MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
- Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 13:01:58 EST
- References: <1992Nov13.185524.10159@beaver.cs.washington.edu><1e36s1INN8tg@early-bird.thin k.com> <92321.133532MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET><1992Nov18.195206.14725@stortek.com>
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- In article <1992Nov18.195206.14725@stortek.com>, pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil
- Earnhardt) says:
- >
- >In article <92321.133532MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET> <MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
- >>In article <1e36s1INN8tg@early-bird.think.com>, fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu
- >>(Michael Fath) says:
- >>>After all, they did WIN in 1988 with Malaguena.
- >>
- >>And a highly questionable result it was, too.
- >>
- >>Mike Hughes
- >
- >Do you categorically dislike Madison, Mike, or do you just think they were
- >scored too high in 1988?
-
- Please, please, please don't misunderstand me. I do NOT categorically
- dislike Madison. I have no problem with the kids who are in Madison. I
- have no problem with the fans who love Madison. All I'm saying is that the
- musical design staff should strive to be more creative within the context
- of the Madison tradition, and I feel this mandates a little more exploration
- into new music.
-
- I believe that the best corps each year should win nationals, though this is
- obviously not the case. Apparently, as others have pointed out, you usually
- win DCI the year after you deserved to. With all the politics that goes on
- (which I think no one denies) and the quality of shows in 1988, I'm saying
- that I have to question the legitimacy of Madison's 1998 title. Here are
- a couple of reasons to ponder:
-
- 1. Were they clean?
-
- >1988 was a very interesting year. Scouts had taken several weeks off
- >for a tour of Europe. When they returned, one week before DCM
- >Championshiops, they clearly were off the pace of the other corps. I
- >believe that Scouts placed *5th* (at best, 4th) at the DCM
- >Championships. They did a huge amount of polishing and cleaning over
- >the 2nd tour...it did not look at all possible for Scouts to win DCI
- >that year.
-
- IMHO, it wasn't possible and it didn't happen. Both BD and SCV had more
- musically challenging shows, that were executed noticably better. Had the
- same been true of Scouts, I would have no trouble saying that they deserved
- the title. But up to a week before championships, Madison was so far back
- of BD and SCV that any catchup would have been a miracle...a miracle that
- didn't happen. The only way it could have happened at that point in the
- season, IMHO, would have been for BD and SCV to damn near stop practicing
- altogether.
-
- 2. Politics.
-
- No one has mentioned the *mystery-finals* of 1988. This was the only year
- in the history of DCI (before OR since) where the relative placements of
- the top 5 remained anonymous until the announcement of scores Saturday
- night. It was a highly questionable practice, and I don't remember hearing
- that finals were going to be run this way in advance (anyone who could shed
- some light on this, please do so).
-
- The group of friends who I was with that night at Arrowhead (including a die-
- hard Madison fan) was unanimous in feeling that SCV deserved the title. When
- Madison was announced the winner, all our jaws dropped. So did most of the
- jaws of people sitting around us. The *hysteria* that Reliable Rondo said
- immediately erupted from the crowd was nowhere in evidence from where we
- were sitting. Of course, there wasn't wholesale booing in poor taste like
- Star has received recently, but it SURE as hell was a surprise to all of us,
- all drum corps fans since the late 1970s. I applauded the Scouts for their
- fine corps and wonderful performance, but strongly felt that SCV and BD had
- the proverbial sand kicked in their faces.
-
- This, coupled with the fact that Rondo kept dropping hints all night (i.e.,
- *there's a dark horse out there*, even though the scores were SUPPOSEDLY
- unknown to all but the judges and tabulators) as well as the fact that it
- was Madison's 50th anniversary (coincidence?) has to lead me to quote Jim
- Garrison:
-
- "If it looks like it, smells like it, and acts like it, you call it
- what it is." .... politics.
-
- >They (Madison) entertained the fans all week, and it was appreciated.
-
- I don't question this for a minute. VK entertained the fans all week too,
- but I don't think anyone reading this would say they deserved to win.
-
- My hats off to Madison for their excellent 1988 show, which certainly deserved
- a high placement at DCI. My congratulations to the members of the 1988 BD and
- SCV for all the work they did and acheivements they accomplished which, IMHO,
- deserved more fair consideration.
-
- (Here they come...(flame shield: on :))
-
- -Mike Hughes
-