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- From: angelai@wam.umd.edu (Angela I.)
- Subject: Re: Experiences
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- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:07:28 GMT
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- In article <7!41pd=@rpi.edu> morale@jec303.its.rpi.edu (Enrique Morales) writes:
- >002369c@ace.acadiau.ca (WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE) writes:
- >
- >>I literally saw my dream form and felt
- >>myself start to go asleep, yet I was fully aware. I found myself looking
- >>behind my shoulder and saw the following: The balkets were spead out, and
- >>they were about one or two feet above the bed. I saw an image of myself
- >>floating up there but that's all it was doing. My theory is that since I
- >>knew that I fell asleep(I've never known was it was truely like before,
- >>because I could never remember falling asleep before this) and My conscionse
- >>self was still pesent, I saw my subconscionce self that I would normally be.
- >
- >No flames are justified here. What it seems you had was not a case OOBE
- >(directly), but a case of bilocation. It has been know to happen.
- >This is when a person is at two places at the same time. I read a book
- >about OOBEs that a case like this in it. I will try to dig it up and
- >post it.
- >
- Actually, I think bilocational is more commonly used for an experience
- when you are literally conscious of being in both places at once....
- To try to explain that, try to hold an image in your mind of two
- different places. Or else look at the room you're in and, while
- continuing to pay attention to the things you see around you, also
- think about another place. It's kinda tricky, but I did it once in
- a dream. I was aware of being in one place doing something, but at
- the same time, I was in a room, monitoring the things that were
- happening (I didn't need a view screen to know what was happening,
- because of course, I was simultaneously aware of both environments...)
-
- Of course, that may be what you were experiencing; I don't know.
- On the other hand, you may have been having a sort of double-obe.
- D. Scott Rogo wrote about cases like that (including his own
- experiences) where people would be having OBEs, but then they'd see
- their out-of-body "phantom" from yet a third point in the room
- (ie, they could see their physical bodies _and_ their "astral" bodies...)
- I could look for the essay Rogo wrote on it if you're interested...
-
- Then again, you were probably having one of those "fuzzy grey"
- experiences that doesn't quite fit into any neat little category,
- but has elements of several...
-
- Flame me for being overtechnical! I've done too much research!!! :)
-
- :)
- Angela
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